Generic Glow Plugs

[Mac of Cygnet]

Having just been stung for £83 for a tiny temperature sender, I'm keen not to spend even more on a couple of glow plugs for a Vetus M2C5 engine. Is there a generic type I could source? I've managed it with filters, saving about 60% in the process, so is there a site which similarly cross-references these expensive wee beasties?

 

Cheers

 

Mac

[bizzard]

Having just been stung for £83 for a tiny temperature sender, I'm keen not to spend even more on a couple of glow plugs for a Vetus M2C5 engine. Is there a generic type I could source? I've managed it with filters, saving about 60% in the process, so is there a site which similarly cross-references these expensive wee beasties?

 

Cheers

 

Mac

Google Elring Beru.

[JerryP]

i'd try going to some motor factors and see if anything they stock match's what you need.

[Biggles]

They don't make the engines just the marinising parts so you need to find out the manufacturer of the basic block then you'll find what you need form motor factors or main stealers.

[johnmck]

Base engine a Mitsubishi I believe.

[Mac of Cygnet]

Google Elring Beru.

 

Well thank you, Bizzard, but I'm not going to Azerbaijan for an item I don't know the part number for. I presume Elring Beru manufactures glow plugs, but I still can't find either a website for them or anyone who can cross-match the Vetus number, which is all I've got.

 

And yes, it's a Mitsubishi base engine, but I think not an automotive one, and I can't find the Mitsubishi equivalent. Anyone help on that at least? There must be lots of smaller boats with this engine in.

 

Cheers

 

Mac

[bizzard]

Well thank you, Bizzard, but I'm not going to Azerbaijan for an item I don't know the part number for. I presume Elring Beru manufactures glow plugs, but I still can't find either a website for them or anyone who can cross-match the Vetus number, which is all I've got.

 

And yes, it's a Mitsubishi base engine, but I think not an automotive one, and I can't find the Mitsubishi equivalent. Anyone help on that at least? There must be lots of smaller boats with this engine in.

 

Cheers

 

Mac

Sorry about that,but Beru automotive electrics are stocked at many motor factors nationwide.

Nearly if not all the Jap base engines are marinized industrial units.

[soldthehouse]

I have posted this link in another thread a few days ago, they supply Beru heater plugs I think this is where Bizzy got his idea hope it helps

http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/pages/pricing/ccp/beru-glow-plugs-ccp.asp

Edited March 9, 2012 by soldthehouse

[bizzard]

I have posted this link in another thread a few days ago, they supply Beru heater plugs I think this is where Bizzy got his idea hope it helps

http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/pages/pricing/ccp/beru-glow-plugs-ccp.asp

Not really STH,your post jogged my memory though,i used Beru Heater plugs,spark plugs and Lambda sensors all the time.My source was F.A.L. of Chadwell Heath,but they moved out to Thurrock.I just tried googling them but nothing doing maybe they've recently gone out of buisiness.

I have their phone numbers somewhere,i'll try ringing them tomorrow.

[soldthehouse]

Not really STH,your post jogged my memory though,i used Beru Heater plugs,spark plugs and Lambda sensors all the time.My source was F.A.L. of Chadwell Heath,but they moved out to Thurrock.I just tried googling them but nothing doing maybe they've recently gone out of buisiness.

I have their phone numbers somewhere,i'll try ringing them tomorrow.

Good man tho i cant see why the op hasnt come up with a supplier as they are easy to google, my link was the first I came to although they maynot be the best source I,m sure that others could be found with a little leg work

Edited March 9, 2012 by soldthehouse

[Guest]

Base engine a Mitsubishi I believe.

Usually Mitsu S2L, S3L or S4L ,the 2,3 and 4 being the number of cylinders.

 

These people will know the generic numbers I think:

 

http://www.diamonddiesels.co.uk/small.htm

 

Also:

 

http://www.thornycroftparts.co.uk/

Edited March 9, 2012 by Guest

[RLWP]

I have posted this link in another thread a few days ago, they supply Beru heater plugs I think this is where Bizzy got his idea

 

<snip>

 

Is that where he gets his ideas from! I thought it was something to do with the phases of the moon...

 

Richard

Edited March 9, 2012 by RLWP

[soldthehouse]

Is that where he gets his ideas from! I thought it was something to do with the phases of the moon...

 

Richard

STH

 

 

RLWP BIZZY

 

 

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Triforce

Edited March 9, 2012 by soldthehouse

[Mac of Cygnet]

Good man tho i cant see why the op hasnt come up with a supplier as they are easy to google, my link was the first I came to although they maynot be the best source I,m sure that others could be found with a little leg work

 

Look, I do appreciate the time that people are taking to help here, but the basic problem is that no-one, but no-one recognises the Vetus part number, which is all I have. I have Googled Mitsu S2L, suggested as the base engine, with a complete blank on Google's part - a rarity, you must admit. But I have discovered 2 suppliers in this country who list the original parts at £17 cheaper each than the Vetus Shop, so I think I'll have to order these and hope they can supply at the price. Still over £30 each for glow plugs though.

 

Mac

[soldthehouse]

Look, I do appreciate the time that people are taking to help here, but the basic problem is that no-one, but no-one recognises the Vetus part number, which is all I have. I have Googled Mitsu S2L, suggested as the base engine, with a complete blank on Google's part - a rarity, you must admit. But I have discovered 2 suppliers in this country who list the original parts at £17 cheaper each than the Vetus Shop, so I think I'll have to order these and hope they can supply at the price. Still over £30 each for glow plugs though.

 

Mac

Whats the number on the glowplug itself ? Iknow it means removing it but it will be the short route in the long run, thats what I would do then at least you have something positive to work with

 

Hunters at Beamish not a million miles from you will get a cross reference

Edited March 9, 2012 by soldthehouse

[Biggles]

I seriously doubt that assuming its a Mitsibush engine will make their own glow plugs. They will be out there somewhere just get one out and take it to a diesel specialist.

 

I have a Vetus DT44A as the main engine and it has no glow plugs. A proper long stroke Detuz diesel. The Vetus genny has a 2 cylinder Mitsubushi 500 cc engine with glow plugs. This little engine can't be that difficult to track down its original Mitzi heritage.

[Guest]

Cant speak for all Vetus engines, but on mine the base engine is labelled on the rocker box. It is a Mitsu S4L.

[Mac of Cygnet]

Cant speak for all Vetus engines, but on mine the base engine is labelled on the rocker box. It is a Mitsu S4L.

 

Well, I Googled Mitsu S4L, and of the very few results that came up, the most informative was by yourself, on JustCanals, describing your visit to the Thornycroft factory, where they marinise the Mitsu S4L. However, the part I require appears to be only for the M2 and M3 series. Do you happen to know if they also marinise the 2 and 3 cylinder Mitsu? Mitsu S2L gave no results at all, as I said earlier.

 

Cheers

 

Mac

[Tony Brooks]

Well, I Googled Mitsu S4L, and of the very few results that came up, the most informative was by yourself, on JustCanals, describing your visit to the Thornycroft factory, where they marinise the Mitsu S4L. However, the part I require appears to be only for the M2 and M3 series. Do you happen to know if they also marinise the 2 and 3 cylinder Mitsu? Mitsu S2L gave no results at all, as I said earlier.

 

Cheers

 

Mac

 

Best stop faffing about trying to find cross references etc. Do as has been suggested and take one out, then take it to any decent motor factors (not accessory shops/Halfords) and they will match it up. Not sure about the length of the bulb but I would lay odds they will be the same as Beta (Kubota) ones. Perhaps try a Kubota agricultural or plant dealer.

[soldthehouse]

Best stop faffing about trying to find cross references etc. Do as has been suggested and take one out, then take it to any decent motor factors (not accessory shops/Halfords) and they will match it up. Not sure about the length of the bulb but I would lay odds they will be the same as Beta (Kubota) ones. Perhaps try a Kubota agricultural or plant dealer.

Thenk the lord he may listen eventually!!!!!!!!!! even if he identifies "the usual" type fitted by research sods law says when he takes them out they will be different. If I want a match the first thing to do is slap it on a counter somewhere and take it from there. I regularly wonder why people on here bother trying to help as some people will do anything but take the easy route!!

[Mac of Cygnet]

Thenk the lord he may listen eventually!!!!!!!!!! even if he identifies "the usual" type fitted by research sods law says when he takes them out they will be different. If I want a match the first thing to do is slap it on a counter somewhere and take it from there. I regularly wonder why people on here bother trying to help as some people will do anything but take the easy route!!

 

OK, OK! I did take one out, but didn't realise I would have this problem, and the boat and the plug is 200 miles away!

 

Edited to say that 'slapping it on a counter somewhere' is not the easy option for me - it would take the cost of the part to even get to a decent motor factors from where I live. In effect, any spares I need have to be ordered by phone or internet.

Edited March 11, 2012 by Mac of Cygnet

[Guest]

OK, OK! I did take one out, but didn't realise I would have this problem, and the boat and the plug is 200 miles away!

 

Edited to say that 'slapping it on a counter somewhere' is not the easy option for me - it would take the cost of the part to even get to a decent motor factors from where I live. In effect, any spares I need have to be ordered by phone or internet.

I know a few people who are in a similar position, and the internet is a Godsend to them. It must be difficult to understand for those who have access to a large town or city?

[soldthehouse]

OK, OK! I did take one out, but didn't realise I would have this problem, and the boat and the plug is 200 miles away!

 

Edited to say that 'slapping it on a counter somewhere' is not the easy option for me - it would take the cost of the part to even get to a decent motor factors from where I live. In effect, any spares I need have to be ordered by phone or internet.

Calm down dear! Now that we have all the facts we can proceed Have you left the plug on the boat Slapped wrists if you have Do you use the a68 to get to the boat? If so one of the most renowned diesel specialists isnt far off route

[Mac of Cygnet]

Calm down dear! Now that we have all the facts we can proceed Have you left the plug on the boat Slapped wrists if you have Do you use the a68 to get to the boat? If so one of the most renowned diesel specialists isnt far off route

 

I am perfectly calm, do you hear?

 

I use public transport. But out of interest, who and where is that?

 

Edited to say I have sussed out motor factors in Halifax, but that'll have to wait till I go back.

Edited March 11, 2012 by Mac of Cygnet

[dcruk]

On the NGK glowplug finder the Mitsubishi L2 engine uses a Y-723U glow plug , but I also found Y-145T listed on another site as equivalent for the Mitsubishi MM432148 glow plug. The Y-145t can be had of Ebay for £7.

 

Hth, Dave