alan_fincher Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yes, you have the later "deluxe" panel, and I'm guessing as there are two alternator lights and two voltmeters perhaps two separate alternators ?? Is it a Turkish rather than a British BMC, do you know ? What you don't have, even with the considerable more dials, is the ammeter, a very easy way of seeing if the heaters are drawing a big current. I'll be very surprised though if you don't have that third position for "heaters" achieved by not going the whole way over to "start". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) What you have pictured is a marinisation by Calcutt Boats. snipped Of a Turkish sourced engine I believe looking at the oil filler system. Calcutt's had the non-standard oil filler/combined engine breather fitted, which required a larger than normal aperture in the rocker cover. This was all done in Turkey for Calcutt. They also had larger flywheels fitted and balanced there before delivery. Roger Edited January 19, 2012 by Albion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemysys Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks everyone. I have just been to the boat and you were all right. Turning the ignition key part way against the springy position, the ignition lights on the panel suddenly flickered and dimmed, I presumed the heaters came on drawing the power. Waited about 20 seconds and the engine fired first turn. Easy when you know how Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks everyone. I have just been to the boat and you were all right. Turning the ignition key part way against the springy position, the ignition lights on the panel suddenly flickered and dimmed, I presumed the heaters came on drawing the power. Waited about 20 seconds and the engine fired first turn. Easy when you know how Darren Glad we could help, and thank you for coming back with your findings. It's always nice to be able to close off something that you have helped with Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yep What Alan said. BMCs love heat so when its sub or near zero temperatures give I would give it 15 to 20 secs as a first start and a bit longer if it doesn't start. These engines are not your modern common rail managed systems and need more coaxing into life. If after giving it the full beans for nearer 30 secs it still has trouble then that probably points towards some other kind of trouble with injectors or compression for example. The certainly do. I have my Mikluni plumbed so that it can preheat the engine. 15minutes on that and it starts within 2 seconds. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks everyone. I have just been to the boat and you were all right. Turning the ignition key part way against the springy position, the ignition lights on the panel suddenly flickered and dimmed, I presumed the heaters came on drawing the power. Waited about 20 seconds and the engine fired first turn. Easy when you know how Darren I know how difficult it often is to feel when you reach the "heat" position so I always recommend that you fit another warning lamp that is energised from the "heat" terminal on the ignition switch. In that way it is easy to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I know how difficult it often is to feel when you reach the "heat" position so I always recommend that you fit another warning lamp that is energised from the "heat" terminal on the ignition switch. In that way it is easy to see. A lot of hire boats are fitted with a buzzer. There was one on our boat when we bought it, but I took it off because it annoyed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The oil pressure warning buzzer gives a good indication on mine of when the glowplugs are on. The increased current draw causes the note to change, so it's easy to tell when they're on or off. Maybe yours does the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I know how difficult it often is to feel when you reach the "heat" position so I always recommend that you fit another warning lamp that is energised from the "heat" terminal on the ignition switch. In that way it is easy to see. An easy way to tell when the glowplugs are in operation is to power them with a nice "clunky" SOLENOID,when the correct key position is reached the solenoid gives you an audible confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Oh, and I think you'll have fun when it comes to changing the oil filter on that installation, I thought mine was hard to get at, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemysys Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Oh, and I think you'll have fun when it comes to changing the oil filter on that installation, I thought mine was hard to get at, but.... I understand what you are saying, you are not the first to mention that. My get out clause is that being disabled I couldn't bend down deep enough for long enough to do it. However I do know which company have been servicing this boats engine for many years. They have a long term customer :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The certainly do. I have my Mikluni plumbed so that it can preheat the engine. 15minutes on that and it starts within 2 seconds. Nick So you find the Mikuni more reliable than the BMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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