BODs SR2 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 I am looking to get a 2kw diesel heater for my 30ft cruiser style narrowboat. Firstly could anyone advise if 2 rather than 5 is sufficient for a relatively small boat. Also is there a preferred make to go for or more to the point not to get. Mixed reviews on some. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, BODs SR2 said: I am looking to get a 2kw diesel heater for my 30ft cruiser style narrowboat. Firstly could anyone advise if 2 rather than 5 is sufficient for a relatively small boat. Also is there a preferred make to go for or more to the point not to get. Mixed reviews on some. Thanks. Whatever model you go for just ensure it is not an 'automotive' model as the electronics are different to the marine version - ALSO - the automotive exhaust is dangerous for use in a boat as it lets Carbon Monoxide build up in your bilges - you will need to buy a seperate marine exhaust system. Are you looking at a 'blown hot-air' or 'hot water & radiators' system ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, BODs SR2 said: I am looking to get a 2kw diesel heater for my 30ft cruiser style narrowboat. Firstly could anyone advise if 2 rather than 5 is sufficient for a relatively small boat. Also is there a preferred make to go for or more to the point not to get. Mixed reviews on some. Thanks. Assuming you've been looking at the £100 Chinese air heaters, I'd suggest getting 5kW unit as they are user-adjustable down to 2kW anyway. Although the appliance itself is good, when it arrives throw away the disastrous exhaust system they supply. It will leak exhaust gas into your boat, tend to disconnect itself from the heater and generally be a risk to your safety. There is another thread running recently here on Chinese diesel heaters with a link to a good quality exhaust that also costs about £100. If you have deeper pockets Webasto, Eberspacher or Mikuni I think are the decent quality brands to go for. Budget well into four figures for any of these but they'll come with safe exhausts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Whatever model you go for just ensure it is not an 'automotive' model as the electronics are different to the marine version - ALSO - the automotive exhaust is dangerous for use in a boat as it lets Carbon Monoxide build up in your bilges - you will need to buy a seperate marine exhaust system. Are you looking at a 'blown hot-air' or 'hot water & radiators' system ? I keep hearing this and repeat it to others too, however my automotive webasto thermotop C works fine, down to about 12v on my battery monitor. I didn't use the automotive exhaust silencer though and just bought a cheap silencer on eBay that fitted inside the flexible pipe. It all works really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said: Are you looking at a 'blown hot-air' or 'hot water & radiators' system ? Just hot air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telstar Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 I've had both. Go for the 5kw. As said previously, note the advice on the exhaust system requirements for marine installations. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrodave Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Have a look at the Lavaner Pro diesel heaters. Good quality and a great price. I'd be very tempted to get the 5KW. Bare in mind you'll need a few extras when installing in a boat... Fuel filter with stop cock, marine fuel hose, exhaust through hull, marine silencer (if you want a silencer) exhaust wrap, heater mount (install dependant) extra internal ducting depending where you want the hot air etc etc... https://lavaner.com/ https://m.aliexpress.com/store/5798116?trace=store2mobilestoreNew&spm Edited December 23, 2022 by Quattrodave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Quattrodave said: Have a look at the Lavaner Pro diesel heaters. Good quality and a great price. I'd be very tempted to get the 5KW. Bare in mind you'll need a few extras when installing in a boat... Fuel filter with stop cock, marine fuel hose, exhaust through hull, marine silencer (if you want a silencer) exhaust wrap, heater mount (install dependant) extra internal ducting depending where you want the hot air etc etc... https://lavaner.com/ https://m.aliexpress.com/store/5798116?trace=store2mobilestoreNew&spm Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, BODs SR2 said: Cheers. And here's the other thread. I suggest it is a goldmine of info on the Chinese diesel heaters, well worth reading end to end. https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/117000-chinese-diesel-heater-woes/#comment-2866690 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, MtB said: And here's the other thread. I suggest it is a goldmine of info on the Chinese diesel heaters, well worth reading end to end. https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/117000-chinese-diesel-heater-woes/#comment-2866690 Great thanks. Found this site too got some good info can be adapted for boats https://www.vanlifeuksurvivorsguide.co.uk/post/tried-and-tested-diesel-heaters-3-0-2022-2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 And the marine exhausts we keep mentioning are not mentioned in the thread I linked, so have a look here: https://www.melloronline.co.uk/Heater_Installation_Accessories_/10691/Eberspacher_Marine_Exhaust_System_2m_with_Integrated_Silencer_24mm_ID.html They have quite a few on the site, this is just an example. have a search of the site for "marine exhaust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrodave Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 Mellor Online also do a good fuel filter... https://www.melloronline.co.uk/Heater_Installation_Accessories_/10707/Eberspacher_Marine_Fuel_Filter_for_use_with_3.5mm_Fuel_hose.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, BODs SR2 said: Great thanks. Found this site too got some good info can be adapted for boats https://www.vanlifeuksurvivorsguide.co.uk/post/tried-and-tested-diesel-heaters-3-0-2022-2023 Remember that in a 'van' the exhaust gas just exits thru the floor, or, thru the engine bay and the gases are dispersed in the air. In a boat the exhaust must be 'plumbed' in using no-hole piping and vented thru a hull fitting in the side of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Quattrodave said: Mellor Online also do a good fuel filter... https://www.melloronline.co.uk/Heater_Installation_Accessories_/10707/Eberspacher_Marine_Fuel_Filter_for_use_with_3.5mm_Fuel_hose.html Swerving off at a tangent, although the Mellor site has a shopping cart its not immediately obvious to me how to actually buy anything. Maybe its me but there seems to be no "Buy Now" button on this or on any other of the listings. Or IS there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 Perhaps you have to register a customer account first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrodave Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) I purchased something last week from them... I don't remember it being difficult 😕 Edit: Although i would have used a laptop not a phone, perhaps the site renders differently... Edited December 24, 2022 by Quattrodave extra info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Quattrodave said: I purchased something last week from them... I don't remember it being difficult 😕 Edit: Although i would have used a laptop not a phone, perhaps the site renders differently... I'm using a laptop too. No "buy' button that I can see. Here's the page link again. Can anyone else here see a "buy" button anywhere on the page? Thanks https://www.melloronline.co.uk/Heater_Installation_Accessories_/10691/Eberspacher_Marine_Exhaust_System_2m_with_Integrated_Silencer_24mm_ID.html Edited December 24, 2022 by MtB Add the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 Perhaps they have closed on line purchasing for Christmas Hols, banner at the top says open on the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 There is a message saying "we are offline, you can send a message if you wish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, PeterF said: Perhaps they have closed on line purchasing for Christmas Hols, banner at the top says open on the 4th. Good call but I don't think that's it. I've been back there lots of times over the last week or so trying to buy an exhaust and have yet to see a Buy button on anything on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom and Bex Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 Cheapest place I found for marine exhaust (and other items) was www.southernmarineproducts.uk Exhaust and mounting bracket i got from them was good quality and very well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Remember that in a 'van' the exhaust gas just exits thru the floor, or, thru the engine bay and the gases are dispersed in the air. In a boat the exhaust must be 'plumbed' in using no-hole piping and vented thru a hull fitting in the side of the boat. Yes. I was looking at their recommendations for the new ones out there. They seem to get a bit of discount too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut Posted December 25, 2022 Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 I guess you have already looked here. https://planarheaters.co.uk/ There is a complete kit, or you can buy components only. UK support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Peanut said: I guess you have already looked here. https://planarheaters.co.uk/ There is a complete kit, or you can buy components only. UK support. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODs SR2 Posted December 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 15 hours ago, BODs SR2 said: Ta. Question: what’s the issue with using the supplied silencers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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