blackrose Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, matty40s said: Sorry, it's not just kids. I use that term for young people in general but I didn't actually see the culprits. They'd gone some time earlier. I'd just assumed it was kids but I guess it could be any idiots. Edited September 18, 2020 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, blackrose said: It can happen on canals too of course when kids get hold of a windlass and deliberately decide to empty a pound in the middle of the night. Wasn't that supposed to be the cause of the Middlewich breach a couple of years ago? Edited September 18, 2020 by David Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just read they have started filling the K&A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: Just read they have started filling the K&A At this time of night.....its the Avon ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, matty40s said: At this time of night.....its the Avon ... Yes is is on the River Avon, but it still forms part of the K&A, just as long sections of the River Kennet form part of the K&A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, matty40s said: At this time of night.....its the Avon ... I dont give a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I think the reason people make the distinction between the K&A and the River Avon is because it's very clear where you leave the canal and go onto the river. At the other end of the K&A the distinction between the canal and the Kennet isn't quite as clear, not as I remember it anyway but I've only done the full length once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, blackrose said: I think the reason people make the distinction between the K&A and the River Avon is because it's very clear where you leave the canal and go onto the river. At the other end of the K&A the distinction between the canal and the Kennet isn't quite as clear, not as I remember it anyway but I've only done the full length once. That may well be correct, however, the distinctions tend to be made by people who live miles away, and do not know the area. I live within a mile of the K&A, near Bradford on Avon where we have both the Avon and the K&A Canal, and we all know the difference. Edited September 19, 2020 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, David Schweizer said: That may well be correct, however, the distinctions tend to be made by people who live miles away, and do not know the area. I live within a mile of the K&A, near Bradford on Avon where we have both the Avon and the K&A Canal, and we all know the difference. As I said, everyone knows the difference between the canal and the river at that end of the K&A because it's very obvious so you don't have to live there to know. However, I suspect most people living at the other end in the Newbury area (or wherever the canal becomes the Kennet) wouldn't know where one becomes the other simply because the distinction isn't so obvious. Edited September 19, 2020 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 18 hours ago, David Schweizer said: If they are the ones that I think they are, the sluices are comparatively modern, and were installed as part of a system to prevent flooding in Bath. I doubt that they would ever qualify for listed status. Some years ago, when the river was in flood, the Environment Agency closed them to prevent flooding in Bath, Consequently the water backed up on the Avon causing flood havoc in Bradford on Avon and other upstream riverside communities Can't see how some sluices below most of Bath being raised either protected Bath or caused flooding above Bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, StationMaster said: Can't see how some sluices below most of Bath being raised either protected Bath or caused flooding above Bath. If by "above" you mean upstream, like Bradford on Avon it's a no brainer isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) For those unfamiliar with Bath, and as the Press are being fairly hopeless with their descriptions, I will attempt to explain. There are two sets of sluices in Bath which together manage river flow and flood levels in The City, The upstream sluice is adjacent to Poultney Weir and is in the Unnavigable River Avon. The second set are downstream, next to the lock in the canalized section at Twerton, and are on the K&A Canal section of the Avon. I believe it is this set which has failed, causing the water loss between Twerton and Bath bottom locks. Both sets work to control water levels both above Bath and below the city along with the critical levels in the City centre itself. Sluice next to Poultney Wier Sluices at Twerton Edited September 19, 2020 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 20 hours ago, Victor Vectis said: I just have and I'm none the wiser. Yeah, same here 20 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Geek humour from the 1990s - don't worry about it. I'm just concerned that I still have it in my brain nearly 30 years later! Well that explains it, a bit anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Money has been raised for the owners of the sunk boats. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-54206793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I wonder how many of these boaters were uninsured, or with third party only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 13 hours ago, buccaneer66 said: Money has been raised for the owners of the sunk boats. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-54206793 58 minutes ago, Graham Davis said: I wonder how many of these boaters were uninsured, or with third party only? I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sir Nibble said: I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. From the interview with a man from the EA on our local news I think any compensation may be coming from the EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sir Nibble said: I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. AFAIK, the sluices are operated by the Environment Agency, not C&RT and read somwhere that the EA were collating information in order to compensate those boaters who have been affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sir Nibble said: I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. Ditto, (but the EA rather than CRT) Even boaters who are insured should not be expected to claim on their own insurance if the liability is someone else's. But it sounds as if the EA are going to 'do the right thing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir Nibble said: I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. Nothing to do with CaRT. EA seem to have accepted responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Sir Nibble said: I'd have thought that they would have a very good case against CaRT for full compensation. Don't CRT's terms and conditions indemnify them against damage caused by their actions (or inactions)? Not that CRT were at fault in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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