Hudds Lad Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Right then clever people, either I'm being a bit thick here or something is plain wrong. Just read a CRT notice for the Shroppie near Chester and was puzzled by the winding hole references (red bits) Up Stream Winding Hole: SU-019-014 Quarry Bridge Down Stream Winding Hole: SU-015-020 Cow Lane I can't honestly say I'd paid them much attention before, and to me they look like OS grid references, but...… using those references they're out in the Celtic Sea off Land's End ?!? so am I missing something obvious here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: Right then clever people, either I'm being a bit thick here or something is plain wrong. Just read a CRT notice for the Shroppie near Chester and was puzzled by the winding hole references (red bits) Up Stream Winding Hole: SU-019-014 Quarry Bridge Down Stream Winding Hole: SU-015-020 Cow Lane I can't honestly say I'd paid them much attention before, and to me they look like OS grid references, but...… using those references they're out in the Celtic Sea off Land's End ?!? so am I missing something obvious here? CRT have an assets register using that format, so presumably it is taken from that. In the days when CRT used to issue a physical mooring permit for my EoG mooring it showed a similar reference, detailing my boats home mooring location. Now I note that the reference appears on my normal cruising licence, so I guess they have combined the two. Edited June 28, 2019 by cuthound Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 They are CRT "Functional Locations" SU-019-014 Waterway Shropshire Union Kilometre 19 Feature 14 You'll have a code on your licence in a similar format, which tags your home mooring. Crossposted. Must type faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: Right then clever people, either I'm being a bit thick here or something is plain wrong. Just read a CRT notice for the Shroppie near Chester and was puzzled by the winding hole references (red bits) Up Stream Winding Hole: SU-019-014 Quarry Bridge Down Stream Winding Hole: SU-015-020 Cow Lane I can't honestly say I'd paid them much attention before, and to me they look like OS grid references, but...… using those references they're out in the Celtic Sea off Land's End ?!? so am I missing something obvious here? I have C&RT's asset list (all 10,602 of them) If you want a copy (Excel spreadsheet) send me a PM with your email address. For example my mooring on the River Trent is alongside their asset number RT-046-004 RT = River Trent 046 = 46 Km from the end of the Trent. 004 = the 4th asset within that KM length. The next bridge along is RT-046-005 (the 5th listed asset in the 46th kilometre of the River Trent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Or if you'd prefer a map : https://canalrivertrust.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapTools/index.html?appid=b46e3e0bda4a44a0be267df7674139a5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzucraft Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: Or if you'd prefer a map : Bookmarked. LOVE a good map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 thanks for the explanation, makes sense now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Or if you'd prefer a map : https://canalrivertrust.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapTools/index.html?appid=b46e3e0bda4a44a0be267df7674139a5 I cant see the Km signs on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I cant see the Km signs on it Zoom in and click on the things you are interested in. A popup box will appear telling you more information. If you keep being irritated by mowing lengths you can turn them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I cant see the Km signs on it Zoom in until you see the little icons (for each asset) hover over the icon and it give you the KM and the asset number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thanks both of you I zoomed but didn't click, I just expected them to be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Do you know what a Reference Location is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mike Todd said: Do you know what a Reference Location is? Can you give an example please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 The only time I recall CRT using the phrase is in relation to EoG mooring permit pricing. In that case the Reference Location is a CRT online mooring fairly near the site in question, usually within tens of miles, and they charge EoG fees at half that rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) No, I'm confusing myself! That's a reference site I described above. The reference location is a point that may or may not have anything interesting on it, 50m apart along the measured kilometre length. Halfway along the example given in the OP would be SU-019-P0500. Edited June 29, 2019 by TheBiscuits Punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 My licence says GU-060-001, GU60 seems to start just outside Calcutt Marina, the first asset seems to be Calcutt bottom lock which is GU-060-003, the old lock next to it is GU-060-004. My actual mooring is above the top lock at GU-060-P0425. The offside moorings are rented by Calcutt so I guess I am still classed as 'moored' at Calcutt Marina! Still haven't a clue where assets 1 and 2 are though. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, Graham and Jo said: My licence says GU-060-001, GU60 seems to start just outside Calcutt Marina, the first asset seems to be Calcutt bottom lock which is GU-060-003, the old lock next to it is GU-060-004. My actual mooring is above the top lock at GU-060-P0425. The offside moorings are rented by Calcutt so I guess I am still classed as 'moored' at Calcutt Marina! Still haven't a clue where assets 1 and 2 are though. Cheers Graham Asset 1& 2 could have been removed during the last 200 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Asset 1& 2 could have been removed during the last 200 years Could be but asset 003 dates from the 1930s suggesting the numbering system is more recent. I wonder if assets 1 and 2 are the backpumps just below the bottom lock? Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Can you give an example please? If you zoom in far enough you get a lot of does which the legend says are Ref Points 5 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: No, I'm confusing myself! That's a reference site I described above. The reference location is a point that may or may not have anything interesting on it, 50m apart along the measured kilometre length. Halfway along the example given in the OP would be SU-019-P0500. I saw them when looking at Salthouse Dock in detail, cos that's where we are. Doesn't fit with your hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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