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It does look like that from the high angle - it is almost a Stowe Hill narrowboats curve Mr Hudson has designed this boat specially for heart attack victims - it not only runs your generator for you when in hospital - it also empties your ash bucket. Of course, they are likely to come out on a Saturday. However, I suppose a complaint would suit CaRT when they formulate the Midlands Moorings Proposals consultation. It was not put up to complain - it was put up to highlight the fact that the "moorings issues" are not always caused by scruffy pikey boats, to highlight how darned selfish some folks are, and to highlight the fact that CaRT will not enforce existing rules , so why waste money on introducing new ones.

Well Nick what a noble thing it is you do. To make yourself the whipping boy for your friends' selfish attitude and try and derail the thread into a slanging match over your choice of penny washers rather than examine why they should be indulging in such incomprehensibly moronic and chavish behaviour. I am truly touched.

Too far away for me then, but please don't burn them. African hardwoods are a rare and precious resource, not easily obtainable from sustainable sources and good woodworkers use quite small pieces of wood like this.

The name Mahogany covers many timbers from the greatest timbers ever down to a few reasonably brown course grain timbers that are only that and although attractive in their own right far from a quality Mahogany. At a guess the frames are likely to be Meranti, Luan and Sapele all decent timbers with large grades in quality and durability. If you have a project for any timber after you have gone to the trouble to re-cut and salvage then that will be great but otherwise go with burning them as to me this will be better than going into a hole in the ground. When burning them I would make sure that my stove was hot and burning well so as to burn off the varnish fast and when I would want to slow the fire down and have it ticking over I will then burn other timber without varnish.

Thank you for your up to date and relevant information, I am sure that your post will go a long way towards catching those responsible.

NB Castellan out of Glascote Basin I have tried to think of an excuse for this boater, and can't. It was moored here Thursday when I arrived and is still moored here now. There was 1 boat on the VM opposite when I arrived, and 1 grp on the new pontoon - so probably a good 700feet plus of available mooring. The Services and water point mooring at Fradley are about 120 feet long - I really struggled to get in on Thursday evening with a severe gale blowing me away from this side when I went for water. Other services that boaters need to use are the elsan, rubbish, showers, toilet blocks etc. Of course the IWA wants rid of those ugly, scruffy pikey boats that block Visitor Moorings and lock landings. Of course there are daily checks done by CaRT to enforce things. This is the kind of boat that Nicknorman would not dream of blaming if he arrived at Fradley in midsummer and couldn't get a mooring. Of course there are not many boats moving due to the weather - but is hat the point? Just a snapshot example of everything that is wrong with Vaughan Welch, Sally Ash and the Hire boat companies views on the moorings "problems" Tin hat and popcorn ready.

I don't know why I'm playing this game but I think it is between some trailers over to the left of the satellite image. It looks as though someone has hidden it there!

Superglue on the windows? Once you had a collection, no-one else would be able to see in.

I am not interested in what kind of rivets they have Nick, and if they were nice people they would not be spending a minimum 72 hours now blocking boaters services. Why should people have to ask a boat to move, would a single hander fighting an Easterly gale be forced to fight their way to moor at such a site. No. After reading your ale fuelled piss taking, I have now reported to CaRT the obstruction to the boaters services at Fradley Junction.

What a dreadfull but highly illuminating thread. Nicknorman 1 - Green Eyed Monsters 0 I tend to agree with Jenlyn. A boater is a boater regardless of your perceived class, wealth or background.

Now children! Didn't your nanny teach you that jealousy is such a negative emotion? Or even, if you were so unfortunate as to have no nanny, your parents? Well never mind, its good that there are boats that you can aspire to own, even though you don't realise it yet.

You cannot buy genuine mahogany any more, not for a price that craftspeople can afford. If it really is mahogony you are sitting on a gold mine, well at least a silver mine! PLEASE don't waste it, too many trees died.

I don't get worked up about these things. It's a boat, not a barbed wire fence. It's easy to moor against, and it's also easy to drag hoses etc. across it. Of course this may cause some wear and tear, but I'm sure the owner has considered that when he chose his mooring. May be blase about this as an ex sea going boat owner. Mooring to, and clambering over boats was normal.

So the trashing of the Canford Park site was everyone else's fault, not the people who actually did it? If we adopted this philospophy across the board, then nobody could ever be held responsible for any anti-social or criminal behaviour they carried out. Instead it would always be society's fault. Although there's an element of truth in what you say, I think the self-fulfilling prophesy theory is a bit of cliche which is often overstated. If it were absolutely true it would work universally, but I doubt many people would agree that people in the financial services industry behaved like greedy bankers because they were treated like greedy bankers. It just doesn't work the other way around.

Tis always risky to call out when you're not sure. When I passed Iona for the first time with Ange and Dave on the front I cheerfully and excitedly yelled 'yay, forumites!!' over the engine noise. Dave heard that as 'hey, foureyes!!' and nearly chased me to lamp me one at the next bridgehole. Luckily we cleared the matter up later over tea and (I think) are still mates.

I think I'll make the most of this weather by getting the Xmas decorations out again!

My thoughts; having taken a call last about a multiple injury incident on a hire boat, and knowing what the impact in terms of the immediate investigation and the potential longer term consequences may be; I would say a it takes a strong organisation with spot on processes and systems to survive such an incident and keep operating. For example how would you deal with facing the potential idea that people on your boat have been injured, possibly in the long term, by something that may have gone wrong on your boat. You may be aware that a different boating activty operator is facing corporate manslaughter charges in regard to a child dying when using his facilities. Whether the parties charged are guilty or not, you have to consider would you be strong enough to deal with such issues. It is not a light decision to take. Putting aside any dealings with CRT or the BSS about the change of use, what cannot be escaped are the duties of care as a landlord, especially in regard to the 1998 Gas Act. Whether someone hiring their boat makes it official or not, the landlord's duties of care are not escapable and failing to live up these, carry potentially criminal prosecution impacts. On the other hand people doing things well and not taking short-cuts have much less to be nervous about. I hope this help crystallize your thoughts Kind regards

You'd get a better answer by emailing one A. Scargill & asking him & his marxist union mates why they waged a class war designed solely to destroy British industry.

Thanks for your replies Firstly, we didn't choose to have a cat initially. He 'adopted' us when 6 years ago someone from a nearby house moved away and left him behind. We were one of several house he called upon. We would love to take him with us, but he is very nervous and feel he woudn't adapt, especially when we'd be cruising. Also, if he did get disorientated and lost, that we feel would be unfair on him. As for the comments implying that we are being unfair/cruel/irresponsible I don't think we are, because if you read my OP I said we wouldn't move onto the boat until we were happy he was re-homed properly. They say you never actually own a cat and because they are such independent creatures I would have no qualms about it if he went to a good home although we'd miss him terribly of course. Cats aren't known to be as reliant on and become as attached to specific people like dogs do and I have no doubt he would adapt and be very happy ever after. It is because we are caring people and very fond of this cat that we are prepared to do whatever is necessary to ensure that he doesn't suffer. And, whilst we will do our utmost to find a good home for him, even though you don't know this cat and what he's like, I do take on board your comments about how well cats adapt to life on the cut, and we might well try it but only after this other option has been explored. Neil