Alan Saunders Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I don't know which is worse, that normous club foot of battery on battery drills that gets in the way or the trailing lead on a mains drill. I like my Stanley hand drill. I still have basic woodworking tools that I bought as teenager over 50 years ago. These are, of course, 'cordless'. The hand drill is good for 1/4" holes in steel and the hand-brace with 'Forstner/auger' bits will bite accurate 1/4" to 2" holes through wood better than any power tool! The important thing for any cutting tool is to keep it sharp; ideally, learn how to sharpen the tool or invest in jigs that help you to get the correct grinding angle for the material that you are cutting. I am very pleased with my Stanley Fat Max (possibly made by Dewalt)18v Combi drill and Impact Driver. Other than the fault that the LED light is shadowed by the chuck and there are no 1/4" hex drive sockets capable of withstanding the 110Nm torque (max. setting of my 1/2" drive torque wrench) of the driver I have no complaints. Gift Tokens are a rip-off! The donors lend the issuer a sum of money at 0% interest and the recipient restricts the validity to their outlets. After six months the voucher becomes void and the whole amount accrues to the voucher issuer. The various issuers of these fraudulent notes make more profit from 'failure to claim' than their profits from regular business. This should be made illegal, the promise on a Bank of England Note never expires. Unfortunately, we are convinced that a 'gift voucher' is less vulgar than a gift of banknotes or a cheque. @OP, find the drill to suit your purpose (likely at a good discount) and find a better bargain for your £50 voucher at B&Q. See moneysavingexpert.com for much good advice on Consumer Rights. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 ... there are no 1/4" hex drive sockets capable of withstanding the 110Nm torque (max. setting of my 1/2" drive torque wrench) of the driver.... Alan, look out for an 'Impact Diver Bit Holder'. That should sort you out. The last one I bought is the first one that hasn't fallen to bits, and it's over a year old. I think it's branded Makita but I can't be sure (and it's many miles away from me at present). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 ....This should be made illegal, the promise on a Bank of England Note never expires. Unfortunately, we are convinced that a 'gift voucher' is less vulgar than a gift of banknotes or a cheque. I must say, I and the majority of my family, have no issues at all with giving some money in notes, for the use of buying something they would like. Its also what was done at work the majority of the time, although sometimes if people got too organised some poor sod would get £100 of tokens for somewhere random, gutted. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I must say, I and the majority of my family, have no issues at all with giving some money in notes, for the use of buying something they would like. Its also what was done at work the majority of the time, although sometimes if people got too organised some poor sod would get £100 of tokens for somewhere random, gutted. Daniel Absolutely nothing wrong with cash as a gift, works in our family, far better than some random voucher that you may never use or worse a totally inappropriate gift that you may or may not be able to exchange. Anyone wishing to send me cash for my birthday next week , just PM me for my address.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Absolutely nothing wrong with cash as a gift, works in our family, far better than some random voucher that you may never use or worse a totally inappropriate gift that you may or may not be able to exchange. Anyone wishing to send me cash for my birthday next week , just PM me for my address. Phil We also do 'what would you like for christmas' at which point the receiver has a think and with lets the purchaser know, or just buys the dam thing and tells them it was £x. Sorted Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 We also do 'what would you like for christmas' at which point the receiver has a think and with lets the purchaser know, or just buys the dam thing and tells them it was £x. Sorted Daniel Yeah, us too, love it, would give you a greenie but you wont allow it LOLPhil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMC problems Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 http://www.diy.com/drills/black-decker-cordless-18v-li-ion-drill-1-battery-bdh18k/808918_BQ.prd £50 Black&Decker might be ok Daniel I have this one. it's great for £50. straight swap for your voucher. there's a bigger brother 13mm metal chuck and light but maybe discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) For anything more than light DIY I'd suggest a drill with 2 gears and more than 35 Newton metres torque may be preferable. It may be worth considering spending £30 more for the superior Bosch drill with 2 batteries. They sometimes have good reductions in their sales, so it may be worth waiting if the drill is not needed right away. cheers, Pete. Edited January 15, 2016 by smileypete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 For anything more than light DIY I'd suggest a drill with 2 gears and more than 35 Newton metres torque may be preferable. It may be worth considering spending £30 more for the superior Bosch drill with 2 batteries. I cant comment on toque value, but I agree that any drill I have used thats been worth using has had two gears. I didnt even know not having two speeds was a thing! Even dads little 7.2v makita is 2-speed. - One for drilling anything but the largest holes. - One for driving screws etc You cant expect to drill a 4mm hole as the same speed you drive a 3.5 inch screw through two 2*2 batterns, nor is the torque for one anything like the other. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the barnacle Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 i always use Dewalt drills but Metabo are my prefered make for my business tools, - i was wondering with the batteries is a higher or lower AH better and why? thanks for any replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George94 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 i always use Dewalt drills but Metabo are my prefered make for my business tools, - i was wondering with the batteries is a higher or lower AH better and why? thanks for any replies. For a professional with a lot of work to do, two big ones are good. For occasional use, two small ones are better than one big one (provided you have a rapid charger) because if one runs out you can use the other while the first one recharges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I don't know which is worse, that normous club foot of battery on battery drills that gets in the way or the trailing lead on a mains drill. I like my Stanley hand drill. A hurdy gurdy as we use to call them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) A hurdy gurdy as we use to call them.Ah that term took me back to my apprentice days.Phil Edited January 26, 2016 by Phil Ambrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 A hurdy gurdy as we use to call them. Ah, so that's what Donovan was singing about in 1968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ah, so that's what Donovan was singing about in 1968 AN here was me in my innocence thought Donovan meant the Barrel Organ type instrument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Can I join in with the willy-waving? I have a 24v Ryobi SDS+ percussion drill. Same as this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ryobi-CRH-240RE-Cordless-Drill-24v-SDS-chuck-Complete-Kit-with-original-case-/291668593384 Cost about £250 new, yours on ebay for c.£30. My advice: if you've got £50 to spend in B&Q is buy a second hand decent drill and spend the £50 on some paint or a nice Clematis or sumfing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Bet that goes to silly money in the dying minutes. I might have a punt on it but wouldn't want to offer more than about £80 for an unknown quantity (bearings, batteries?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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