Neat Antifreeze

[Arthur Brown]

In modern systems there will usually be copper alloys, steel and aluminium alloys in contact with the water so there are huge issues with corrosion internally so they fill the antifreeze with corrosion inhibitors. Use pure glycol antifreeze and something in your system will corrode and the engine coolant will be in the bilge and probably pumped into the cut, this will kill your engine and kill the fish for far enough to get you noticed.

[Grace and Favour]

No Neil.

I said that my system is 34 litres. So I'll need 17-18 litres of antifreeze.

 

Rob....

I changed mine last autumn, and bought mine on the Midland Chandlers "Freaky Friday" (20% discount) day. Though I will probably buy 25Ltr from a motor factors next time. (I have a 38ltr system.)

[Chalky]

 

Car screenwash is different!

1/ don't try it as antifreeze

2/ it is often sold diluted so that the transport container is not hazardous and doesn't need expensive ADR trucking as the undiluted screenwash concentrate is highly flammable. ADR class 2 flammable liquid (IIRC), the ready to use is not flammable.

 

Its isopropyl alcohol

[Phil Ambrose]

Hi Phil.

 

50 years ago I could buy neat antifreeze for my Vauxhall Wyvern, get 2 gallons of petrol, go to the pub and get drunk and still have change from 5 bob.

That's old proper money.....to you young whipper snappers.

 

Rob....

Ah those were the days, a pint, pork pie and change out of 2s and 6d. (12 1/2p in todays money)

Phil

[Neil Smith]

Sorry rob when you said it needs 34 litres I assumed you meant anti freeze.

 

Neil

[robmilton]

If you Google Andrew page and find your nearest branch they should deliver it to you no problem, blue and pink antifreeze will mix but it brings the pink antifreeze down to the level of the blue, neat antifreeze/ coolant is best used at 50 percent.

[frangar]

I think I read somewhere that the red antifreeze isn't great with copper...of which there is a fair bit on the average narrowboat cooling system. Might be worth a google...sorry but the connection here isn't good! I agree with what others have said..antifreeze is cheap compared with corroded engine components!

 

Cheers

 

Gareth

[Murflynn]

Ah those were the days, a pint, pork pie and change out of 2s and 6d. (12 1/2p in todays money)

Phil

or arfur craan.

[ROBDEN]

or arfur craan.

Or indeed 'alf a dollar.

Ah those were the days, a pint, pork pie and change out of 2s and 6d. (12 1/2p in todays money)

Phil

A pint and a pork pie.....luxury.

 

Wish I was a nicker behind you.

[Phil Ambrose]

Lived like lords in those days,

Phil

[ROBDEN]

Lived like lords in those days,

Phil

You bet.

 

And you could get proper donuts mmmmmmm.

[Laurie Booth]

Limekiln

Midland Chandlers

Halfrauds

Can't see the dilution ratio ?

[phill]

I think what his grace favour is try to tell you is not to question your betters and just be grateful for what they give you.

 

Not my way through the world but he obviously knows better.

 

Bizzard gave the best advice.

[Laurie Booth]

I think what his grace favour is try to tell you is not to question your betters and just be grateful for what they give you.

 

Not my way through the world but he obviously knows better.

 

Bizzard gave the best advice.

[smileypete]

Anyone know of a canal boat engine having ally block or parts?

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

[RLWP]

Anyone know of a canal boat engine having ally block or parts?

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

Lister ST - aluminium heads

 

I don't think that defeats your argument though

 

Richard

[frangar]

Anyone know of a canal boat engine having ally block or parts?

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

I think lombardini engines have alloy parts.....they also have cambelts! Got to love Italian design!

 

Cheers

 

Gareth

[RLWP]

I have a small Vetus twin in the workshop with an aluminium pump housing. For that matter most modern BMC pumps are alloy, as are the thermostat housings

 

Bowman heat exchangers are alloy

 

Richard

[ROBDEN]

I think what his grace favour is try to tell you is not to question your betters and just be grateful for what they give you.

 

Not my way through the world but he obviously knows better.

 

Bizzard gave the best advice.

Yeah Bizzard's advice is good. I will go with that when I do it.

 

Rob....

[steamraiser2]

Opie Oils and most motor factors will be able to supply. Make sure that you order the right type though.

[smileypete]

Lister ST - aluminium heads

 

I don't think that defeats your argument though

 

Richard

 

I haven't started to form an argument yet, there probably are other reasons to defeat it.

 

Found a few links on antifreeze though, backs up what Bizzard says:

 

http://www.coolantexperts.com/coolant_overview/traditional_coolant

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/841/coolant-fundamentals

http://www.aa-academy.com/Training/Learning%20Zone/Antifreeze.asp

 

Apparently the pink stuff is kinder to ally.

 

Also Fernox claims compatibility with ally:

 

http://www.fernox.com/problem+solving/faqs/general

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

Edited September 9, 2014 by smileypete

[RLWP]

 

I haven't started to form an argument yet.

 

 

When you do, an aluminium head on an air cooled engine is immaterial

 

Richard

[smileypete]

OK I see!

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

[ROBDEN]

I changed mine last autumn, and bought mine on the Midland Chandlers "Freaky Friday" (20% discount) day. Though I will probably buy 25Ltr from a motor factors next time. (I have a 38ltr system.)

Do you happen to know when the next Freaky Friday is?

 

Rob....