how to tie up properly

[onionbargee]

a lesson in secure tying up, 9 seperate ropes on a 30 footer ! is there a Sumani forcast ?

[the grinch]

they aren't for tying up, they are holding the bottom on!! lol

[john6767]

No point in taking a risk is there. But seriously, with those tight ropes from the roof and the loose bow line the boat will heal over at the slightest provocation, so not very comfortable when boats go past.

[Naughty Cal]

Are they not fender ropes?

[Guest]

Are they not fender ropes?

 

Some are - but the centre ones are almost definitely through a 'nappy pin' hooked under a rail/armco.

 

(Tie up like that on the Aire & Calder and wait for one of the sand barges to pass you and your breakfast will be on the floor for sure!)

[Naughty Cal]

Tie up like that anywhere we cruise and your breakfast will be on the floor. Some of the big cruisers can shift a surprising amount of water around for their size.

 

Why do some people insist on mooring so badly. No doubt they shout at every passing boat to slow down as well

[alan_fincher]

Pretty bad, but very normal on the GU. Very very normal indeed.

My guess is only the rope tied to both handrails, and through the visible nappy pin is mooring it, and that all the rest, (despite their thickness) may be fenders, but you can't see the bottom end of most.

 

No defense, but can I see the faint outline of what may actually be a rope at the front, albeit a bit slack? Might there not be a similar one at the back.

 

A very normal scenario on the GU is for people to tie up at both ends on stakes woefully inadequate for the bank conditions, then add a bodge like this at the centre. You come along and find a boat apparently only moored at the middle, but the stakes at each end are by now hanging from their ropes in the water. I tried to retie one like this at Apsley on Saturday night when we moored "Sickle" just behind it, but what were being used as "stakes" proved to be long bolts, (with threads on the end), and were not long enough to stay put, despite my efforts.

 

I suspect those mooring up there might have come under the influence of Joshers "France" and "Holland" working North earlier on!............

[Nine of Hearts]

Being charitable, could it be that the extra ropes are there because they've not know how to tie up fore and aft properly and have been sloshed about, so in inexperience thought, "Cripes, we need more rope", and proceeded to add a centre line? When that didn't work (as of course it wouldn't), they just added more. I note that they've tied the centre rope to both left and right guardrails, which i assume is a misguided attempt to prevent roll. It might be an idea to go, "did you know...", instead of pointing and laughing*.

 

*attempting to inform people can oft times lead to abuse, so I concur that pointing and laughing is probably safer.

[Proper Job]

A lot of the hire boat companies insist that the hirer's use a centre line as well as bow and stern lines when mooring

[Guest]

I must admit when we leave our boat on the mooring we leave a centre line tied to a ring but always have it very loose, I suppose it's an insurance of sorts if the bow/stern lines give up for any reason and giving a chance for the boat to be re tied rather than drift off - overkill? possibly.....

[onionbargee]

I am a dirty liar, i had a closer look, 2 of them are fenders, so it's barely hanging on with just 7 ropes.

[luctor et emergo]

I moor with a front line, and a rear line. No centre line, and no springs. And guess what? I don't move much.

But then I know how to moor my boat, properly.

As for laughing at pictures of other boats, ther's usualy a story behind a picture.

[Naughty Cal]

I moor with a front line, and a rear line. No centre line, and no springs. And guess what? I don't move much.

But then I know how to moor my boat, properly.

As for laughing at pictures of other boats, ther's usualy a story behind a picture.

The ropes accidentally fell off the roof?

[RickH]

I must admit when we leave our boat on the mooring we leave a centre line tied to a ring but always have it very loose, I suppose it's an insurance of sorts if the bow/stern lines give up for any reason and giving a chance for the boat to be re tied rather than drift off - overkill? possibly.....

I do the same , it takes a few seconds to tie a centre line on or pin it in and really what's the use of it just sitting ontop the boat , it may just be the line that keeps you attached to terra fima . I also chained up whilst on my winter mooring and will do the same on a river , you never know if some drunk likely lad thinks it a good idea to untie your lines .

[Dominic M]

I do the same , it takes a few seconds to tie a centre line on or pin it in and really what's the use of it just sitting ontop the boat , it may just be the line that keeps you attached to terra fima . I also chained up whilst on my winter mooring and will do the same on a river , you never know if some drunk likely lad thinks it a good idea to untie your lines .

That's sexist! It could be some drunk likely lady.

[RickH]

That's sexist! It could be some drunk likely lady.

No , she's in my boat !

[Rebotco]

No , she's in my boat !

 

If she reads this, she will probably be a most UNlikely lady .......

And your life won't be worth living!

[RickH]

If she reads this, she will probably be a most UNlikely lady .......

And your life won't be worth living!

Tell me something new !

[ditchcrawler]

I do the same , it takes a few seconds to tie a centre line on or pin it in and really what's the use of it just sitting ontop the boat , it may just be the line that keeps you attached to terra fima . I also chained up whilst on my winter mooring and will do the same on a river , you never know if some drunk likely lad thinks it a good idea to untie your lines .

Not sure about chains on a river

[FadeToScarlet]

I do the same , it takes a few seconds to tie a centre line on or pin it in and really what's the use of it just sitting ontop the boat , it may just be the line that keeps you attached to terra fima . I also chained up whilst on my winter mooring and will do the same on a river , you never know if some drunk likely lad thinks it a good idea to untie your lines .

As long as it's loose, otherwise every passing boat will set you rolling about and make life uncomfortable for you.

 

I'm not a fan of centre ropes on a river. Where we moor, in any kind of flood or water level fluctuation, I end up having to go down the river several times a night loosening centre ropes from people who tied up with them. It's a particular bugbear of mine.

[ditchcrawler]

As long as it's loose, otherwise every passing boat will set you rolling about and make life uncomfortable for you.

 

I'm not a fan of centre ropes on a river. Where we moor, in any kind of flood or water level fluctuation, I end up having to go down the river several times a night loosening centre ropes from people who tied up with them. It's a particular bugbear of mine.

Knife

[RickH]

Not sure about chains on a river

The chain would be very loose and easy to unlock , if you see a problem I'd be interested in your opinion .

[luctor et emergo]

The chain is there to stop you from waking up at an acute angle, balancing on the weir. You would not leave the boat for extended periods whilst locked to the railings.

[bizzard]

If you hunt about in the grass for Daisies you can make Daisy chains. These will undo readily if too much strain is put on them.

[ditchcrawler]