I have zinged her bottom

[robby]

We bought sweetpea in December 98 but by May 2001 she needed the bottom blacking because she was rusting along the water line, so out she came good clean scrape wire brush until all loose bits were off. Then a coat of Rylard classic black 6 inches above and below the waterline and then 2 coats all the way round top to bottom, She looked good and I thought I had done a good job.

But by late 2004 she was looking bad along the water line again. Talking to some of the older members of our club, various reasons were put forward, the problem of where air meets water and the corrosive effect of this, and the problems of modern steel manufacturing and that nothing could be done better than the job I had done previously. so out she came again and a repeat of the last effort was done again.

Which brings me to 2007 and her bottom looking bad again and I have learned that this is about average for a narrowboat,

Its funny no one told me about this when we bought the boat but if you love your boat this is something that has to be done.

Now the internet is a powerful tool and I was determined to find out more about what was going on, And decided to contact a fishing boat company in Hull and asked to be put through to boat maintenance and I spoke to a man called Fred a nice guy that did not mind talking about rust because there problem is a lot worse than mine, salt water must be as bad as it gets were corrosion is concerned. I think Fred was in a good mood and told me about Zinger. I had never heard of it, but he gave me the rep’s number and told me to call. Nick at zinger was interested in what I wanted to do and explained what Zinger was Zinger is a one-component anti-corrosion zinc coating system. Its unique formula provides environmentally safe cathodic protection to steel comparable with hot-dip galvanising, with the added advantage that it can be applied as though it were a paint.

I was impressed with nick and he implied that in fresh water the Zinger system would last a long time when pressed how long he said in excess of 10 years but could not give any more information because in 8 years as a zinger rep no one had ever asked for it for a narrowboat, this really gave me something to think about talked it over with the captain we decided to give it a go.

Nick said get the bottom as clean as you can then he would come over and have a look. For a week I cleaned the bottom and it did look good, I rang Nick and he was there the next day took one look and said nowhere near clean enough, I was disappointed to say the least, it was agreed the only way would be to grit blast the whole bottom now this was serious because I had considered grit blasting in the beginning and the best quote I could get was £500 and that was a lot of money but Nick said get it blasted and he would supply the zinger at a discount as the company were interested in the project

Now Nick is a knowledgably man and told me the benefits of grit blasting, 1 it gets right down to clean steel and 2 gets rid of all the mill scale which according to Nick is the biggest problem with conventional bottom blacking on a narrowboat, he told me that the problem was not the blacking coming off the steel but the mill scale on the surface of the steel coming off and bringing the blacking off with It which then leaves the steel unprotected.

That was it I was sold, rang the blaster man and he said he would be there in 2 days and that I should be there to coat the steel within 3 hours of him finishing otherwise it would start to rust Nick agreed and put the zinger on overnight, it did arrive the next day.

The weather report was fine for the next day, so it was on,

it was decided to use a large roller and lay off with a brush if needed but a little bit of a experiment on a piece of sheet steel showed that the Zinger went on really nice no brushing needed so we were ready. I was at the boat club for 8 o’clock to meet the blaster men and feeling nervous, would the weather change and give us a problem, would we get a breakdown on the blaster which was a converted Lorry with the biggest compressor I have ever seen a man in a canvas suit and what looked like a divers helmet, he gets started, he thanked me for getting it fairly clean

so all my hard work had not been in vain after all.

I was amazed how clean it was coming and it was taking the mill scale off I could see the merits of blasting and what the colour of steel really is, when you see a job like this you realise just how big your boat is because the blaster is cleaning a 1in strip at a time up and down up and down he would go for an hour then his mate would take over and they didn’t stop for 8 hours these men earn there money. There she stands clean bright steel, blaster man said it was a shame to cover it with paint. We were all ready to go, one coat now, drying over night, one coat next morning, drying through day last coat of galvanising end of day, brilliant no rain it would have given us a real problem. Next morning Sweetpea was ready for the first of her finishing coats of Zinger black, and after the second she looked good. it was more battle ship grey than black

a couple of members reckoned I had wasted my money and right then I could not of cared less it had been a good project and I had enjoyed myself and our boat had got her bottom Zingered

 

 

How long will it last,

that was may 2007 so 5 years 2 months

what is her bottom looking like today 15 July 2012,

1 no noticeable deterioration

2 No rust of any kind

3 fresh water barnacles do not attach to the Zinger finish

4 No need for anodes as the bottom is one big anode

Edited July 28, 2012 by robby

[bigkicker]

We bought sweetpea in December 98 but by May 2001 she needed the bottom blacking because she was rusting along the water line, so out she came good clean scrape wire brush until all loose bits were off. Then a coat of Rylard classic black 6 inches above and below the waterline and then 2 coats all the way round top to bottom, She looked good and I thought I had done a good job.

But by late 2004 she was looking bad along the water line again. Talking to some of the older members of our club, various reasons were put forward, the problem of where air meets water and the corrosive effect of this, and the problems of modern steel manufacturing and that nothing could be done better than the job I had done previously. so out she came again and a repeat of the last effort was done again.

Which brings me to 2007 and her bottom looking bad again and I have learned that this is about average for a narrowboat,

Its funny no one told me about this when we bought the boat but if you love your boat this is something that has to be done.

Now the internet is a powerful tool and I was determined to find out more about what was going on, And decided to contact a fishing boat company in Hull and asked to be put through to boat maintenance and I spoke to a man called Fred a nice guy that did not mind talking about rust because there problem is a lot worse than mine, salt water must be as bad as it gets were corrosion is concerned. I think Fred was in a good mood and told me about Zinger. I had never heard of it, but he gave me the rep’s number and told me to call. Nick at zinger was interested in what I wanted to do and explained what Zinger was Zinger is a one-component anti-corrosion zinc coating system. Its unique formula provides environmentally safe cathodic protection to steel comparable with hot-dip galvanising, with the added advantage that it can be applied as though it were a paint.

I was impressed with nick and he implied that in fresh water the Zinger system would last a long time when pressed how long he said in excess of 10 years but could not give any more information because in 8 years as a zinger rep no one had ever asked for it for a narrowboat, this really gave me something to think about talked it over with the captain we decided to give it a go.

Nick said get the bottom as clean as you can then he would come over and have a look. For a week I cleaned the bottom and it did look good, I rang Nick and he was there the next day took one look and said nowhere near clean enough, I was disappointed to say the least, it was agreed the only way would be to grit blast the whole bottom now this was serious because I had considered grit blasting in the beginning and the best quote I could get was £500 and that was a lot of money but Nick said get it blasted and he would supply the zinger at a discount as the company were interested in the project

Now Nick is a knowledgably man and told me the benefits of grit blasting, 1 it gets right down to clean steel and 2 gets rid of all the mill scale which according to Nick is the biggest problem with conventional bottom blacking on a narrowboat, he told me that the problem was not the blacking coming off the steel but the mill scale on the surface of the steel coming off and bringing the blacking off with It which then leaves the steel unprotected.

That was it I was sold, rang the blaster man and he said he would be there in 2 days and that I should be there to coat the steel within 3 hours of him finishing otherwise it would start to rust Nick agreed and put the zinger on overnight, it did arrive the next day.

The weather report was fine for the next day, so it was on,

it was decided to use a large roller and lay off with a brush if needed but a little bit of a experiment on a piece of sheet steel showed that the Zinger went on really nice no brushing needed so we were ready. I was at the boat club for 8 o’clock to meet the blaster men and feeling nervous, would the weather change and give us a problem, would we get a breakdown on the blaster which was a converted Lorry with the biggest compressor I have ever seen a man in a canvas suit and what looked like a divers helmet, he gets started, he thanked me for getting it fairly clean

so all my hard work had not been in vain after all.

I was amazed how clean it was coming and it was taking the mill scale off I could see the merits of blasting and what the colour of steel really is, when you see a job like this you realise just how big your boat is because the blaster is cleaning a 1in strip at a time up and down up and down he would go for an hour then his mate would take over and they didn’t stop for 8 hours these men earn there money. There she stands clean bright steel, blaster man said it was a shame to cover it with paint. We were all ready to go, one coat now, drying over night, one coat next morning, drying through day last coat of galvanising end of day, brilliant no rain it would have given us a real problem. Next morning Sweetpea was ready for the first of her finishing coats of Zinger black, and after the second she looked good. it was more battle ship grey than black

a couple of members reckoned I had wasted my money and right then I could not of cared less it had been a good project and I had enjoyed myself and our boat had got her bottom Zingered

 

 

How long will it last,

that was may 2007 so 5 years 2 months

what is her bottom looking like today 15 July 2012,

1 no noticeable deterioration

2 No rust of any kind

3 fresh water barnacles do not attach to the Zinger finish

4 No need for anodes as the bottom is one big anode

 

 

Sounds good, any photos ???

[NB Lola]

Am interested, very interested, do you have contact details please ?

[davidc]

We bought sweetpea in December 98 but by May 2001 she needed the bottom blacking because she was rusting along the water line, so out she came good clean scrape wire brush until all loose bits were off. Then a coat of Rylard classic black 6 inches above and below the waterline and then 2 coats all the way round top to bottom, She looked good and I thought I had done a good job.

But by late 2004 she was looking bad along the water line again. Talking to some of the older members of our club, various reasons were put forward, the problem of where air meets water and the corrosive effect of this, and the problems of modern steel manufacturing and that nothing could be done better than the job I had done previously. so out she came again and a repeat of the last effort was done again.

Which brings me to 2007 and her bottom looking bad again and I have learned that this is about average for a narrowboat,

Its funny no one told me about this when we bought the boat but if you love your boat this is something that has to be done.

Now the internet is a powerful tool and I was determined to find out more about what was going on, And decided to contact a fishing boat company in Hull and asked to be put through to boat maintenance and I spoke to a man called Fred a nice guy that did not mind talking about rust because there problem is a lot worse than mine, salt water must be as bad as it gets were corrosion is concerned. I think Fred was in a good mood and told me about Zinger. I had never heard of it, but he gave me the rep’s number and told me to call. Nick at zinger was interested in what I wanted to do and explained what Zinger was Zinger is a one-component anti-corrosion zinc coating system. Its unique formula provides environmentally safe cathodic protection to steel comparable with hot-dip galvanising, with the added advantage that it can be applied as though it were a paint.

I was impressed with nick and he implied that in fresh water the Zinger system would last a long time when pressed how long he said in excess of 10 years but could not give any more information because in 8 years as a zinger rep no one had ever asked for it for a narrowboat, this really gave me something to think about talked it over with the captain we decided to give it a go.

Nick said get the bottom as clean as you can then he would come over and have a look. For a week I cleaned the bottom and it did look good, I rang Nick and he was there the next day took one look and said nowhere near clean enough, I was disappointed to say the least, it was agreed the only way would be to grit blast the whole bottom now this was serious because I had considered grit blasting in the beginning and the best quote I could get was £500 and that was a lot of money but Nick said get it blasted and he would supply the zinger at a discount as the company were interested in the project

Now Nick is a knowledgably man and told me the benefits of grit blasting, 1 it gets right down to clean steel and 2 gets rid of all the mill scale which according to Nick is the biggest problem with conventional bottom blacking on a narrowboat, he told me that the problem was not the blacking coming off the steel but the mill scale on the surface of the steel coming off and bringing the blacking off with It which then leaves the steel unprotected.

That was it I was sold, rang the blaster man and he said he would be there in 2 days and that I should be there to coat the steel within 3 hours of him finishing otherwise it would start to rust Nick agreed and put the zinger on overnight, it did arrive the next day.

The weather report was fine for the next day, so it was on,

it was decided to use a large roller and lay off with a brush if needed but a little bit of a experiment on a piece of sheet steel showed that the Zinger went on really nice no brushing needed so we were ready. I was at the boat club for 8 o’clock to meet the blaster men and feeling nervous, would the weather change and give us a problem, would we get a breakdown on the blaster which was a converted Lorry with the biggest compressor I have ever seen a man in a canvas suit and what looked like a divers helmet, he gets started, he thanked me for getting it fairly clean

so all my hard work had not been in vain after all.

I was amazed how clean it was coming and it was taking the mill scale off I could see the merits of blasting and what the colour of steel really is, when you see a job like this you realise just how big your boat is because the blaster is cleaning a 1in strip at a time up and down up and down he would go for an hour then his mate would take over and they didn’t stop for 8 hours these men earn there money. There she stands clean bright steel, blaster man said it was a shame to cover it with paint. We were all ready to go, one coat now, drying over night, one coat next morning, drying through day last coat of galvanising end of day, brilliant no rain it would have given us a real problem. Next morning Sweetpea was ready for the first of her finishing coats of Zinger black, and after the second she looked good. it was more battle ship grey than black

a couple of members reckoned I had wasted my money and right then I could not of cared less it had been a good project and I had enjoyed myself and our boat had got her bottom Zingered

 

 

How long will it last,

that was may 2007 so 5 years 2 months

what is her bottom looking like today 15 July 2012,

1 no noticeable deterioration

2 No rust of any kind

3 fresh water barnacles do not attach to the Zinger finish

4 No need for anodes as the bottom is one big anode

 

Any photos of the hull now and what was the final cost of the project

 

thanks in advance

[Alan Saunders]

Interesting claims! BTW it is Zinga.

[Chalky]

We had our hull grit blasted and then 3 coats of 2 pack epoxy applied. After 4 years when it was lifted out there were no signs of any problems. It was cleaned, 2 more coats applied and put back in. It would be interesting to compare the costs and which system gave the most cost effective solution.

[robby]

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thanks in advance

We had our hull grit blasted and then 3 coats of 2 pack epoxy applied. After 4 years when it was lifted out there were no signs of any problems. It was cleaned, 2 more coats applied and put back in. It would be interesting to compare the costs and which system gave the most cost effective solution.

grit blasting was £500 zinger £300 and my time foc

Interesting claims! BTW it is Zinga.

sorry everybody i have just looked on the tin and i have spelt it wrong it is called Zinga thankyou Alan

[RLWP]

 

Richard

Edited July 28, 2012 by RLWP

[simon&jan]

Sounds a very good idea , acording to the link it can be painted over too , belts n braces 2 pack epoxy on top , take the boat out every 5 yrs to polish it !!!

Edited July 28, 2012 by simon&jan

[Davidss]

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The link shown is defective, because there are [ MEDIA ] tabs, which appear superfluous, although I don't really know their purpose, and there is a leading 'http://', which is also not required.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These appear to be the relevant pictures, hosted on Imageshack.

'Shack' being the operative word, in a pejorative sense, IMHO.

 

But I Hope This Helps.

[Timleech]

The link shown is defective, because there are [ MEDIA ] tabs, which appear superfluous, although I don't really know their purpose, and there is a leading 'http://', which is also not required.

 

 

 

 

That looks absolutely typical of a steel hull which had been originally painted over the mill scale, which would explain why your earlier efforts didn;t seem to last very long.

 

What happened to all the blasting grit? Were the neighbours and site owners not bothered?

 

Tim

[Chalky]

 

grit blasting was £500 zinger £300 and my time foc

 

 

Similar sort of cost.

[jake_crew]

I've used Zinga on old vehicle chassis and its first class.

 

You know you're getting quality from the weight of the tin.

[NB Lola]

Looking for someone to do blasting and zingering the job, I am in kings Bromley but happy to do 2-3 days boating to get to you, please email me at nblola@hotmail.co.uk

 

Ps boat is 57ft cruiser stern last blacked 18 months ago

[robby]

That looks absolutely typical of a steel hull which had been originally painted over the mill scale, which would explain why your earlier efforts didn;t seem to last very long.

 

What happened to all the blasting grit? Were the neighbours and site owners not bothered?

 

Tim

sorry tim should have said we put water with it to keep the dust down and it worked well no problem with the other boats

[robby]

The link shown is defective, because there are [ MEDIA ] tabs, which appear superfluous, although I don't really know their purpose, and there is a leading 'http://', which is also not required.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These appear to be the relevant pictures, hosted on Imageshack.

'Shack' being the operative word, in a pejorative sense, IMHO.

 

But I Hope This Helps.

thank you i stil have a problem with pictures

[BlueStringPudding]

I wouldn't mind getting that done on my boat too as I'm overdue blacking as it is. If I could find someone to do the whole job from grit blasting the hull to applying the goop, that is.

[blackrose]

4 No need for anodes as the bottom is one big anode

 

This is the bit I don't understand. Why would you want your paint system to behave as an anode?

 

We had our hull grit blasted and then 3 coats of 2 pack epoxy applied. After 4 years when it was lifted out there were no signs of any problems. It was cleaned, 2 more coats applied and put back in. It would be interesting to compare the costs and which system gave the most cost effective solution.

 

If I'd gone to all the trouble of hving my boat grit blasted, I think 3 coats of twin-pack epoxy would be my preferred choice. If your prep is good I reckon you could leave it for 8 years.

[NB Lola]

I wouldn't mind getting that done on my boat too as I'm overdue blacking as it is. If I could find someone to do the whole job from grit blasting the hull to applying the goop, that is.

 

I am sorting out someone to do mine too, if you are anywhere near Trent lock I have an option there, two or more jobs should provide financial margin benefit to us boaters

[bizzard]

I singed my bottom once, on my stove whilst struggling with a 6X4' sheet of plywood in the cabin when fitting out.

[Phil Ambrose]

Our boat's hull is cold galvanised upto the rubbing strake and where the ice took of the blacking in 2010/2011 there is no sign of corrosion.

Phil

[robby]

I wouldn't mind getting that done on my boat too as I'm overdue blacking as it is. If I could find someone to do the whole job from grit blasting the hull to applying the goop, that is.

some grit blasting company's do offer a zinga service but the company i used came up with a high price so i did it myself

[David Mack]

I think this chap has zinga'd his bottom

 

[BlueStringPudding]

Hope he properly prepped the surface first

[NB Lola]

Anyone know who the shot blaster is on the Erewash?