Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Can anyone recommend some one who can service/fix our Alde. We are at Barton on the T+M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebotco Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Can anyone recommend some one who can service/fix our Alde. We are at Barton on the T+M. Strange how they only break down when the weather turns cold! Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Strange how they only break down when the weather turns cold! Brian [/quote it was last serviced sept 2010. We ran out of water and gas yesterday, sods law and hasnt work right since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Is an Alde Comfort 2928? Or another model. What are the symptoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Is an Alde Comfort 2928? Or another model. What are the symptoms? yes think so. It will light and fire up but wont warm water up. It wont always work the heating either. Its desperate for a service. We ran out of gas and water this weekend, may be this has cocked it up? I am new to Aldes so arent too clever how they work. We also have a calorifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 If it is the tall narrow one with a balanced flue (a cap and a 'skirt' on the flue terminator) it is a 2928. If it doesn't have a balanced flue, so just a cap on the terminator it is an earlier one. If it is a box shape then it is a 3010 (unless it is very old). If it is lighting, and burning then the pilot should be ok (they are prone to getting clogged up). Not heating the water: are you sure the header tank is full? And does the pump run (this sits in the header tank). If there is water in the header and the pump is running, if the burner is still going then you probably have an air lock somewhere in the system. However this is unlikely if it was running before you ran out of gas, unless you haven't got enough water in the header. Running out of water shouldn't affect it (assuming you mean the fresh water, not the heating circuit water). Running out of gas shouldn't be a problem if you can light the pilot. (I presume the pilot is lit as you say it fires up). If the burner fires up, runs for a while, but then when it stops burning it won't relight because the pilot has gone out, then it is probably a faulty overheat stat. You can take the burner unit out and send it to Alde for service/repair (if you are confident of doing it and know what you are doing - it does mean messing with the gas connection). They will turn it round in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 If it is the tall narrow one with a balanced flue (a cap and a 'skirt' on the flue terminator) it is a 2928. If it doesn't have a balanced flue, so just a cap on the terminator it is an earlier one. If it is a box shape then it is a 3010 (unless it is very old). If it is lighting, and burning then the pilot should be ok (they are prone to getting clogged up). Not heating the water: are you sure the header tank is full? And does the pump run (this sits in the header tank). If there is water in the header and the pump is running, if the burner is still going then you probably have an air lock somewhere in the system. However this is unlikely if it was running before you ran out of gas, unless you haven't got enough water in the header. Running out of water shouldn't affect it (assuming you mean the fresh water, not the heating circuit water). Running out of gas shouldn't be a problem if you can light the pilot. (I presume the pilot is lit as you say it fires up). If the burner fires up, runs for a while, but then when it stops burning it won't relight because the pilot has gone out, then it is probably a faulty overheat stat. You can take the burner unit out and send it to Alde for service/repair (if you are confident of doing it and know what you are doing - it does mean messing with the gas connection). They will turn it round in a few days. It is a 2928. The header is about 1/2 inch above MIN. It will light and run for a minute then die down to pilot. Heating has been on for about an hour then it went off. When I leave the boat, as we arent live aboards, its usually left for about 2 weeks. I usually turn off the gas in the bow locker. The oven is before the Alde on the gas pipe run so we have to light a gas ring or 2 to draw the gas thru the pipe when we switch it back on after returning to it. It then lights straight away. We have no problem with the pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreg Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) It is a 2928. The header is about 1/2 inch above MIN. It will light and run for a minute then die down to pilot. Heating has been on for about an hour then it went off. When I leave the boat, as we arent live aboards, its usually left for about 2 weeks. I usually turn off the gas in the bow locker. The oven is before the Alde on the gas pipe run so we have to light a gas ring or 2 to draw the gas thru the pipe when we switch it back on after returning to it. It then lights straight away. We have no problem with the pilot. Have you checked if the pump is running? You can unscrew it from the top of the header tank to check. Edited January 29, 2012 by rgreg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 If you've disconnected the two wee spade terminal wires from the little circulation pumps motor in the header tank and re-connected them around the wrong way this will cause the pump motor to run in reverse causing a complete stoppage of circulation, an overheated boiler and shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 If you've disconnected the two wee spade terminal wires from the little circulation pumps motor in the header tank and re-connected them around the wrong way this will cause the pump motor to run in reverse causing a complete stoppage of circulation, an overheated boiler and shut down. we aint touched anything, so cant see it been that. It seems to have an intemittent problem. Thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 we aint touched anything, so cant see it been that. It seems to have an intemittent problem. Thanks anyway These Comfort 20 type boilers as you probably know draw in combustion air through a hole in the floor from the bilges which the boiler sits on,and its not unknown for spiders to keep crawling up it and blowing out the burners flames,a secondary sort of live fail safe device.Joking apart this air hole can get blocked with cobwebs and throttle the air supply. Looking through the little Mica window on the firebox are the flames when it is running a nice blue colour,if not and burning yellowish with a bit of black smoke issuing from the exhaust,means un fully burn't fuel---burner needs cleaning and or cobwebby air intake needs clearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 These Comfort 20 type boilers as you probably know draw in combustion air through a hole in the floor from the bilges which the boiler sits on,and its not unknown for spiders to keep crawling up it and blowing out the burners flames,a secondary sort of live fail safe device.Joking apart this air hole can get blocked with cobwebs and throttle the air supply. Looking through the little Mica window on the firebox are the flames when it is running a nice blue colour,if not and burning yellowish with a bit of black smoke issuing from the exhaust,means un fully burn't fuel---burner needs cleaning and or cobwebby air intake needs clearing. getting blue flames but the boat was riddled with spiders when we bought it back in late Sept, but we had no probs then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 These Comfort 20 type boilers as you probably know draw in combustion air through a hole in the floor from the bilges which the boiler sits on,and its not unknown for spiders to keep crawling up it and blowing out the burners flames,a secondary sort of live fail safe device.Joking apart this air hole can get blocked with cobwebs and throttle the air supply. Looking through the little Mica window on the firebox are the flames when it is running a nice blue colour,if not and burning yellowish with a bit of black smoke issuing from the exhaust,means un fully burn't fuel---burner needs cleaning and or cobwebby air intake needs clearing. The 2928 is a balanced flue and doesn't draw air in at the bottom - the older 2920 did I think. If the water is circulating properly, it sounds like a problem with the 'stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 http://www.grahamcut...neering.co.uk/# Used to appear on here some time ago David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The 2928 is a balanced flue and doesn't draw air in at the bottom - the older 2920 did I think. If the water is circulating properly, it sounds like a problem with the 'stat. Yes the older 20 model and the havoc spiders could cause.I have no knowledge of the later 2928. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The 2928 is a balanced flue and doesn't draw air in at the bottom - the older 2920 did I think. If the water is circulating properly, it sounds like a problem with the 'stat. the room stat was changed on the last service 16 months ago. Someone has said it may be the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 My aldi behaved in a similar way when calor ??????? was used and not propane , not sure if new connection had to be fitted to feed pipe to connect to bottle for propane , if so it wont be your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I've used Jannel at Shobnall for Alde service with no complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Muck Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 http://www.grahamcut...neering.co.uk/# Used to appear on here some time ago David That's who we use. He's very good. Graham found a cremated spiders nest inside the burner when it stopped working last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 That's who we use. He's very good. Graham found a cremated spiders nest inside the burner when it stopped working last year. He serviced ours last year. Lovely guy; really knows his stuff. (We're at Mercia, T&M) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickd Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I too heartily recommend Graham Cutmore. Our Alde boiler worked intermittently for several years and finally gave up the ghost, since Graham repaired it it has been excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjw Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Try tightening the gland nut that fixes the overheat protection sensor. That's the thing sheathed in cloth which is clipped to the waterjacket. It needs to make a good connection or the main burner won't stay lit. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren72 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I've used Jannel at Shobnall for Alde service with no complaints spent £1500 at Shobnall 3-4 weeks before they went bust? Aint going back there in a hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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