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[calamity507]

Just bad taste..I M O. But..I am a dog lover..maybe thats the difference.

Edited December 2, 2011 by calamity507

[Chris Pink]

Just bad taste..I M O. But..I am a dog lover..maybe thats the difference.

 

isn't that illegal?

[WotEver]

... would you have offered a home to this dog?

As an alternative to drowning the poor beast? Damn right I would.

 

Tony

[Chris Pink]

As an alternative to drowning the poor beast? Damn right I would.

 

Tony

 

Whereas your emotional response is laudable, you are not going to be able to keep up with the surplus of these dogs.

 

Yes, probably most people seeing this about to happen, would offer to take the dog (as an alternative to a violent reaction) but it's not possible to deal with the societal problem in this way.

[WotEver]

Whereas your emotional response is laudable, you are not going to be able to keep up with the surplus of these dogs.

 

Yes, probably most people seeing this about to happen, would offer to take the dog (as an alternative to a violent reaction) but it's not possible to deal with the societal problem in this way.

I never suggested it was. And to demonstrate that I'm not talking pure conjecture, several years ago swmbo and I were asked to take a cat to the vet to have it put down. There was nothing wrong with the cat, but the owner lived in a flat on the 32nd floor, and the poor animal was going stir crazy. We both responded that no, we wouldn't have a healthy cat put down, but if the owner was that desperate we'd take ownership. We already had a cat and a dog and had no desire for another cat but he proved to be a wonderful companion and lived a happy life with us.

 

No, we didn't protect every cat in Birmingham that year, but we did protect one.

 

Tony

[magpie patrick]

No, we didn't protect every cat in Birmingham that year, but we did protect one.

 

And to that one cat it made a difference, so your point is valid. We have three cats for a similar reason, we chose to take two rescue kittens that were siblings, we then found the litter had only three kittens in total...

 

But Chris is right, in theory the policy of charities neutering animals (we had ours done rather then drain the charities resources) should reduce supply to the point where demand can not be met, it doesn't. There are waif like kittens (and I presume pups) aplenty. The previous owner of our three, or rather the owner of the mother, was compassionate enough to try and give them away, and unable to afford neutering or humane destruction. Not all people in that position are so compassionate.

[carlt]

Yes, probably most people seeing this about to happen, would offer to take the dog (as an alternative to a violent reaction) but it's not possible to deal with the societal problem in this way.

The role of the rescue charities is not to deal with the societal problem, it is to do what they can to ease the suffering of individual cases.

 

You might as well say "Close all the hospitals because we can't save them all so there's no point trying to save some of them."

[Albion]

The role of the rescue charities is not to deal with the societal problem, it is to do what they can to ease the suffering of individual cases.

 

You might as well say "Close all the hospitals because we can't save them all so there's no point trying to save some of them."

 

Well said Carl, have a greenie.

Roger

[Phil Ambrose]

Sheer evil.

 

Carl is right - I was looking for a second dog a short while back, and browsing the rescue websites and visiting a couple of centres I would estimate about 90% are some kind of young Staffy/bull terrier cross, invariably acquired as an accessory to make some weak lame excuse for a human "look 'ard".

 

Evil beyond words, we also looked at several sites with a view to getting a pal for Maisie (crazy cocker) and majority of dogs were as Carl said, Staffies and those that were'nt were Jack Russels (or handbag size dogs)

 

Phil

[i love my narrowboat]

Today at 12:25pm I discovered a dog just under the water in the canal 100mtrs west of bridge 4c (kensal town)Paddington arm of the Grand union canal.I called the RSPCA and whilst waiting observed that the dog had a chain and electical flex attached to the waist and a weight on other end.

 

RSPCA ACO(animal collection officer)Jill saunders 7379 arrived and we both retrieved the body and she explained to me the dog(male)had only been in the water for half a day or so.

 

Jill was unable to move or carry the animal so I placed this young(less than a year old)dog into a large bag and carried him to the van.

 

there was no chip found on this dog and the details are..... Tan coloured all over dog.bull terrier/cross

 

there will be a article in the local standard paper I have been informed...any info call Jill Saunders 7379....on 08705555999......

 

for someone to do this,is a act of evil not cruelty..to take a animal to the waters edge,take time to prepare the method of its end.then throw the dog in the canal to struggle until is dies is evil...and if someone can do this to a dog,they have the capability to do it to YOU.....

 

 

poor creature,,hateful people, why couldnt they have left it outside a sanctuary???

[Guest]

Evil beyond words, we also looked at several sites with a view to getting a pal for Maisie (crazy cocker) and majority of dogs were as Carl said, Staffies and those that were'nt were Jack Russels (or handbag size dogs)

 

Phil

 

Hang on a mo what is wrong with JRT's - great characters - you would do well to seriously think about one.

 

Very intelligent and inquisitive, inexhaustible energy so fantastic for long walks for an owner that needs to lose a bit of flab (like me).

 

Handbag sized yes but very 'boat sized' and compact too. Don't automatically dismiss them on their physical size.

[Victor Vectis]

Oh I do f****ng hate humanity a lot of the time.

 

 

There are some times when swearing is appropriate IMHO.

 

Well said.

 

I'd give you a greenie if I hadn't used up my quota for today.

 

SAM

Ryde

IOW

[ChimneyChain]

I agree with MJG, jack Russells are very loyal, obedient and great watch dogs. But don't dismiss staffies, all though generally tarred with knuckle draggers they too are great dogs. but saying that getting a rescue dog you can never be 100%.

 

Darren

[i love my narrowboat]

We have four dogs, 2 we have had since puppies and 2 rescues which are both aged. Sammy the shih tzu who is 13yrs old was in the rescue for 4 months because he has so many medical issues and not many people want to bother with these problems, I took one look at that little soul barking constantly and broke down crying, that was on the Monday and we took him home on the wednesday, we have had him 2 years and he has brought a lot of happiness to my husband who had never had any pets before we met. he is now on medication which is £57 a month , however he is worth every penny and he is v contented with us and whilst he is well on the medication he has , we will not have him put to sleep. He was at the rescue centre as he had 'fallen out of a top story window' (pushed or fell???) no one really knows.

our other rescue belonged to an 85 year old lady who died and 3 days later the grand daughter wanted rid of him. he is 11 years old and we have had him a year and fortunately is v healthy. our 2 dogs (bichons) are 9 years old and all in all they are a great little gang. We do not buy xmas presents nor cards, instead we take a donation of food to local animal charities to help some of the less fortunate animals in this country, my brother also has 2 rescues which are both staffies and are beautiful dogs. again it is the JK (Jeremy Kyles) of this country who have these type of dogs and then get rid of them when they no longer fit their pathetic image .!there is no excuse for cruelty but while mankind exists so will that...

 

How is this different? Many years ago I drowned a litter of pups - it was the accepted method in the countryside of getting rid of unwanted litters. I didn't bargain for the result of doing what every surrounding farmer would do as a matter of course - physically sick and shaking for days, and bad dreams for months. It didn't look very humane to me - they struggled and squeaked for ages. Never, ever again could I even contemplate such a thing.

 

 

My only question to you with reference to this is : why didn't you have your animal speyed or keep it under strict control when in season if you could not afford to have it done.

[Charlie Boy]

I agree with MJG, jack Russells are very loyal, obedient and great watch dogs. But don't dismiss staffies, all though generally tarred with knuckle draggers they too are great dogs. but saying that getting a rescue dog you can never be 100%.

 

Darren

getting any dog you can never be 100%

 

having a baby you can never be 100% what it'll turn out like either, you just hope the love and guidance you give keeps them on the right road.

 

If we all gave up trying then there might as well be no foster homes either. They are full of societies rejects for one reason or other.

[Lady Muck]

I agree with MJG, jack Russells are very loyal, obedient and great watch dogs. But don't dismiss staffies, all though generally tarred with knuckle draggers they too are great dogs. but saying that getting a rescue dog you can never be 100%.

 

Darren

 

I love Jacks they are great - we have one in the marina. He is so full of personality and I haven't seen a rat on the mooring since he arrived. He squeezes through the fence when the professional dog walker comes past and blags a freebie walk by going round the marsh with her and all of her dogs.

 

Jacks also make excellent comedy sidekicks for lurchers.

 

My grandpa had a staffie, my earliest memory is of me running around with it, I'd have been about 2 or 3. He had such a good, calm temperament, even when I prodded him and tugged his ears.

[Guest]

getting any dog you can never be 100%

 

having a baby you can never be 100% what it'll turn out like either, you just hope the love and guidance you give keeps them on the right road.

 

If we all gave up trying then there might as well be no foster homes either. They are full of societies rejects for one reason or other.

 

Agree - we had a very lovable lab retriever before we had our JRT....he bit my wife's brother when on one New Years eve (and very old) asleep under the table my BIL decided (pissed) it would be a good idea to get down and 'nuzzle' himmmm

 

You can never ever 100% trust any dog, of any breed.

 

I'm not sure why dog owners don't understand this...

[Lady Muck]

Animals don't like being around people who are drunk or drugged, because they often exhibit the same physical signs as someone who is terrified (dilated pupils, increased heart rate, sweating etc), it freaks them out.

[Doorman]

Having spent the last week or two trawling the rescue centres, looking for another dog, I am astounded at the number of, dare I say it "tasty" dogs, abandoned and looking for new homes.

 

Hot dogs?

 

Completely agree with your sentiments about Chavs and their trophy dogs. Nothing more than status symbols. Unfortunately, due to their 'business' activities, these morons always have the money to buy expensive breeds, mistreat them only to then disgard them for some other poor sod to try and socialise the poor animals back into society.

 

They make me sick!

 

 

On a lighter note, a couple of boaters near to us have an amazing Great Dane called Aggie. She is so lovely with an excellent temperament. When I innocently asked where she sleeps on the boat, the chap said "anywhere she likes", which I thought was a classic answer for such a giant breed like Aggie.

Edited December 2, 2011 by Doorman

[i love my narrowboat]

Agree - we had a very lovable lab retriever before we had our JRT....he bit my wife's brother when on one New Years eve (and very old) asleep under the table my BIL decided (pissed) it would be a good idea to get down and 'nuzzle' himmmm

 

You can never ever 100% trust any dog, of any breed.

 

I'm not sure why dog owners don't understand this...

 

Well it serves him right!! the poor old boy was happily sleeping and then frightened by something unknown prodding him (albeit a nuzzle :-)) I did that to our Shih tzu when he was asleep, i could not resist the urge to bend over and kiss the top of his head, he being of poor eyesight, partially deaf and asleep was obviously frightened and lashed out with his nearly toothless mouth but he did manage to pierce my nose, boy did that make my eyes water. lol,, lesson learnt the hard way for me..

 

Working for one of the 'emergency services' only too often we get calls from people whose dogs have been attacked by a JK's dog, in one instance a very hysterical lady rang to say that a 'staffie' had run after her dog (a lap dog) in the park and grabbed it by the throat and run off with it! she gave chase and found it ripped to bits further down the road!!!HORRENDOUS,the owner of the staffie was not found nor did he/she come forward... there has to be some legislation brought in before this country goes further down the pan...

[Joshua]

......................Working for one of the 'emergency services' only too often we get calls from people whose dogs have been attacked by a JK's dog, in one instance a very hysterical lady rang to say that a 'staffie' had run after her dog (a lap dog) in the park and grabbed it by the throat and run off with it! she gave chase and found it ripped to bits further down the road!!!HORRENDOUS,the owner of the staffie was not found nor did he/she come forward... there has to be some legislation brought in before this country goes further down the pan...

 

 

As a solicitor I once saved the life of a lovely bull terrier that had bitten a boy, when I successfully defended it in the magistrates court.

 

Unfortunately the misguided owner (the mother of the firms senior partner) let it happen again and I was powerless second time round, it was given the death sentence.

 

Sad thing is, under the custodianship of a more understanding owner it would have led a happy and harmless life.

 

 

Joshua

[Doorman]

My grandpa had a staffie, my earliest memory is of me running around with it, I'd have been about 2 or 3. He had such a good, calm temperament, even when I prodded him and tugged his ears.

 

I had an older work mate years ago who told me about an occasion when he took his grandchildren out to the local park, accompanied by his lively Staffie. He bought the two kiddies an icecream each whilst they enjoyed the rides in the park.

 

As he sat down on the grass, holding the icecreams for his grandkids, he noticed that the Staffie had wondered quite far away. Calling it back, the dog proceeded to run towards him at gathering pace until it finally head butted my friend, rendering him unconscious. He awoke to find his grandkids still playing on the rides, quite oblivious to his plight and the Staffie licking away at the grounded icecreams!

 

Real characters Staffies.

 

Mike

Edited December 3, 2011 by Doorman