ditchcrawler Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 I had a very interesting conversation with an Australian couple who were in the Australian Embassy in Russia, how to open a car's drivers door, or when the freezer broke, pile everything on the balcony (they virtually lived on frozen imported food) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: I have (It's a Mercedes) but you need to get into the car 1st The heated seats are quite nice as well. You said the screen couldnt be scraped? You dont need to on mine (Kuga) I just fire up the heated front screen and in a few seconds it starts to clear if its just frosted or it breaks the adhesion of ice/snow which you can then easily clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, M_JG said: You said the screen couldnt be scraped? You dont need to on mine (Kuga) I just fire up the heated front screen and in a few seconds it starts to clear if its just frosted or it breaks the adhesion of ice/snow which you can then easily clear. The screen was totally cover in thick mini-glaciers which I could not 'touch' with the scraper. The heated windscreen takes several minutes to heat up (it is a 17 year old car) but a combination of de-icer (squirty) engine heat and heated screen and it cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Alan de Enfield said: The screen was totally cover in thick mini-glaciers which I could not 'touch' with the scraper. The heated windscreen takes several minutes to heat up (it is a 17 year old car) but a combination of de-icer (squirty) engine heat and heated screen and it cleared. Ford do call their version 'Quickclear' and it is. I was worried as in 2020 I had to have the screen replaced and it was a non genuine one. I was concerned that it wouldnt be as quick but it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Although there was a good frost here this morning it had no staying power and faded away by the time I needed the car at 8am. Rarely see a decent frost in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Friend next door just pours glass of warm water over the windscreen and has been doing that for years. Started doing that myself and it seems to work very well especially if you don’t use the wipers immediately. Appreciate some cars have automatic wipers. I know we always are told not to do that but I wonder if the old wives would tell a different story with modern car windscreen glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said: Appreciate some cars have automatic wipers. Which can be switched off. 45 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said: Friend next door just pours glass of warm water over the windscreen and has been doing that for years. Started doing that myself and it seems to work very well especially if you don’t use the wipers immediately. Try that when it's properly frosty , which is a rare event in the last decade (depending where you live) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, MartynG said: Which can be switched off. Try that when it's properly frosty , which is a rare event in the last decade (depending where you live) . But is that hearsay from older days? I’ve never heard it happen and my friend swears he’s done it for 30 years! this suggests not but recommends a non environmental spray ? https://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/blog/will-hot-water-crack-a-frozen-windshield Edited November 23, 2022 by Stroudwater1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said: But is that hearsay from older days? I’ve never heard it happen and my friend swears he’s done it for 30 years! this suggests not but recommends a non environmental spray ? https://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/blog/will-hot-water-crack-a-frozen-windshield Will your friend accept liability if your glass breaks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 21/11/2022 at 15:35, Alan de Enfield said: I have (It's a Mercedes) but you need to get into the car 1st The heated seats are quite nice as well. And the heated steering wheel... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Probably not 🤣 That article clearly explains why it is unlikely to happen, the only reason not to do it appears to be because it makes the driveway slippery 🤣. The expanding due to water in small windscreen cracks isn’t limited to occasional pouring water on the windscreen as rain does it too🤣 it’s not hot but tepid water we use. It’s an old tale from plain glass windscreens of the 1950s. pouring warm or hot water over a laminated glass windshield can not crack it. This is because of how laminated glass is created and protected by the materials mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said: pouring warm or hot water over a laminated glass windshield can not crack it. This is because of how laminated glass is created and protected by the materials mentioned above. But its heated evenly all over, not just in one spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 When I lived in a house and worked I used hot water (from the kitchen hot water tap) on my car's windscreen every time it was frosty. Never cracked a windscreen in over 30 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alway Swilby said: When I lived in a house and worked I used hot water (from the kitchen hot water tap) on my car's windscreen every time it was frosty. Never cracked a windscreen in over 30 years. But why take the risk, when cold water from the cold tap works just as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, MtB said: But why take the risk, when cold water from the cold tap works just as well? Dunno. I never thought of cold water. If I ever live my life again I shall try it out. But hot water worked ok for me for 30 years, I don't think it was a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alway Swilby said: Dunno. I never thought of cold water. If I ever live my life again I shall try it out. But hot water worked ok for me for 30 years, I don't think it was a risk. Ah yeah, that thing. I can think of about 200 different lives I would like to live, given the chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) cba Edited January 13, 2023 by M_JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 I had a laminated windscreen crack one time. It wa a frosty morning and I had the screen heater on full blast There had been a small stone chip in the screen and the crack started from that . But this has no connection with winterising boats . A cold snap is forecast starting monday although it doesn't look particularly severe. Maybe some snow but the ground is perhaps too wet and too warm for snow to hang around. Still not too late for significant snow or frost but apart from the chilly week and a half in December its been relatively mild if somewhat wet and windy here aI expect the same is true of most of the country. My frost protection heaters on the boat have done little work in January (so far) but might see some activity next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, MartynG said: Still not too late for significant snow or frost Definitely not. we are still only half way through winter. The last significant snow and cold we had here was in Feb 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Alway Swilby said: Dunno. I never thought of cold water. If I ever live my life again I shall try it out. But hot water worked ok for me for 30 years, I don't think it was a risk. Are windscreens the same today as they use to be, do they still make toughened ones that shattered into a million pieces or are they all now laminated some with a heating element built in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said: Are windscreens the same today as they use to be, do they still make toughened ones that shattered into a million pieces or are they all now laminated some with a heating element built in Normally laminated and some have heating elements, mine does and its a god send in winter. (Well a normal winter, its hardly been used this winter). Edited January 14, 2023 by M_JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 The result of not winterising properly , not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robtheplod Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 14/01/2023 at 13:22, ditchcrawler said: The result of not winterising properly , not mine. i can see a few areas of potential leak there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 Judging by the energy consumed my boat doesn't seem to have consumed any frost protection heating in January other than one day , 4th Jan . That could change during the remainder of January and February of course . I have a dehumidifier running which cuts out when the set 60%rh level is achieved and then it monitors the air until it is again required. The dehumidifier has been using between 30p and 50p in electricity per day which I think is an acceptable sum . The variable cost seems to be down to temperatures with the least energy used being on colder days . The dehumidifier keeps the boat sufficiently dry to prevent any mould issues. The boat felt comfortably dry during a brief to the boat visit yesterday. I will only have a little work to do to get the boat ready for the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 When I first got my boat the bow thruster compartment (below a locker in the well deck) used to accumulate several litres of condensation each winter. I considered insulating it, but eventually found that removing the top of the locker and its floor, thus leaving the bow thruster compartment open (but under the cratch) and ventilated resolved the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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