Coal boat lapworth

[Annie cariad]

At lapworth on the arm is there  a coal boat supplying this area any one know

[DaveP]

I believe Rich on Roach ventures there.  http://www.lock13.co.uk/#roach

[5239]

Roach is just on his way in to Brum. 
I’ll ask him when/if he’ll be at Lapworth. 

I thought he went down Tardibigge ? (Mind I think there’s stoppages down that way 🤷‍♀️)

[taylor736]

Hey, I’m not sure about the current coal boat in Lapworth, but you could try checking with the local marinas or a nearby canal community for any updates.

[Rob-M]

On 07/01/2025 at 11:29, 5239 said:

Roach is just on his way in to Brum. 
I’ll ask him when/if he’ll be at Lapworth. 

I thought he went down Tardibigge ? (Mind I think there’s stoppages down that way 🤷‍♀️)

Isn't Tardebigge top lock currently restricted to boats under 7ft due to movement in the lock walls so Roach may not be going through there.

[5239]

Yes that’s right. 

Roach’s movements/routes appear to be on a constant  change at the moment. 
He said with all the rain we’ve had lately there’s been a build of sediment/muck washed in to the cut, somewhere passed (or before) one of the two tunnels above Tardibigge.  Can’t remember which. Reckons that’s put a stop to him there too. 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

12 minutes ago, 5239 said:

Yes that’s right. 

Roach’s movements/routes appear to be on a constant  change at the moment. 
He said with all the rain we’ve had lately there’s been a build of sediment/muck washed in to the cut, somewhere passed (or before) one of the two tunnels above Tardibigge.  Can’t remember which. Reckons that’s put a stop to him there too. 

 

 

 

Maybe he can put in a claim on C&RTs business interuption insurance.

 

We were looking at buying a marina/boat hire business on the Mon & Brec, when there was a breach BW paid out for a full year of loss of earnings, based on the previous 3 years accounts.

[5239]

21 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

Maybe he can put in a claim on C&RTs business interuption insurance.

 

We were looking at buying a marina/boat hire business on the Mon & Brec, when there was a breach BW paid out for a full year of loss of earnings, based on the previous 3 years accounts.

 dunno how it all works for him,

I’d guess he’d miss out on regular customers with online moorings but then again he simply changes route and picks up other customers. 🤷‍♀️
 

I’ve always wondered how these boats get on if they stray in to each other’s patch? Perhaps there’d be coal boat wars, just like Ice Cream van wars. 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

6 minutes ago, 5239 said:

just like Ice Cream van wars. 

 

That's going back a few years - I was working in Glasgow and surrounds in the late 70's early 80's

[David Mack]

11 minutes ago, 5239 said:

I’ve always wondered how these boats get on if they stray in to each other’s patch? Perhaps there’d be coal boat wars, just like Ice Cream van wars. 

It's always struck me as very gentlemanly. To the extent that one operator will recommend a competitor if they can deliver to a customer sooner.

[5239]

12 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

That's going back a few years - I was working in Glasgow and surrounds in the late 70's early 80's

when I worked the Leeds area a couple of years ago my boss was very quite about what went on back in the day,

looking at old

newspaper reports it was serious stuff 

Edited January 11 by 5239

[Mike Todd]

3 hours ago, 5239 said:

 dunno how it all works for him,

I’d guess he’d miss out on regular customers with online moorings but then again he simply changes route and picks up other customers. 🤷‍♀️
 

I’ve always wondered how these boats get on if they stray in to each other’s patch? Perhaps there’d be coal boat wars, just like Ice Cream van wars. 

 

You have to remember that ice cream vans were/are licensed by the local authority after a bidding auction. A good pitch was very valuable hence a high price for the licence. I doubt that a coal run would be anything like as lucrative, and so they only gave to pay for a trading licence. The ice cream vans defended their asset with vigour! Even in times and places other than the Wars.

[Alan de Enfield]

27 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

You have to remember that ice cream vans were/are licensed by the local authority after a bidding auction. A good pitch was very valuable hence a high price for the licence. I doubt that a coal run would be anything like as lucrative, and so they only gave to pay for a trading licence. The ice cream vans defended their asset with vigour! Even in times and places other than the Wars.

 

Do you know what the 'ice cream wars' were about ? (it certainly wasn't the council licence, or, pitch)

[tree monkey]

2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Do you know what the 'ice cream wars' were about ? (it certainly wasn't the council licence, or, pitch)

Dealing drugs if I remember right

[Mike Todd]

20 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Do you know what the 'ice cream wars' were about ? (it certainly wasn't the council licence, or, pitch)

I was really trying make the point that ice cream vans (in general rather than just Glasgow) have specific licensed pitches which they defend vigorously, if not always going to such extremes. In most cases the bidding for annual licences reflected the earnings potential which in good cases was not inconsiderable. I equally doubt that your average gang drug dealer would see a narrowboat as a cost effective alternative to County Lines! Nor that it addressed a significant market for said goods.

[5239]

two links, first an example of arguing over turf in Bradford 2010 and 

the second Wikipedia about Glasgow in the 80’s
 

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/bradford-ice-cream-turf-war-spills-into-violence-as-children-look-on-1971313
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_ice_cream_wars