Marple Flight

[Tracy D'arth]

2 hours ago, IanD said:

So what do you call a pig with three eyes?

Piiig.

[cuthound]

On 30/12/2023 at 09:37, Stroudwater1 said:

It seems to be a job that can use or save much time/ money in labour costs so tends to get minimised. After a few months the contractors shell company changes so little can be done to make the contractor effect repairs. 
The 5G contractors locally have changed 3 times in a year, same blokes doing the work. Their compactor remains in unused condition appt from being moved on and off the lorry. 
Council fully occupied in trying to get the sunken trenches safe. 
 

It’s a race to the bottom. An answer could be to insist on a huge deposit these companies slowly receive back should the work hold up satisfactorily over time. 
 

 

When I was working I used to specify that contractors must carry insurance backed guarantees for their work, including any which they sub-contracted out. The typical duration was 5-7 years.

 

Some contractors bitched about it, but if they wanted the work they had to comply.

 

It costs a fraction more but ensures that the work lasts for the duration of the guarantee, and is probably cheaper in the long run as all re-work is covered by the contractor or his insurance. (Contractors usually respond quickly and favourably because they don't want their insurance premiums increasing because of a large number of claims).

[David Mack]

2 hours ago, cuthound said:

When I was working I used to specify that contractors must carry insurance backed guarantees for their work, including any which they sub-contracted out. The typical duration was 5-7 years.

But for that to work, it requires the client body firstly identify a defect with the work done up to 5-7 years later, then go back to the contractor or their insurer within the guarantee period, then argue about whether the defect is actually a result of inadequate work by the contractor or something else etc. etc.

 

In a clearcut case the contractor may make good the defect or the insurer pay out (so the client can engage another contractor). In less clear cases all sides will argue, and incur lots of staff time and lawyers bills, and the client won't always win. And that assumes that 5-7 years later the client body has the relevant original records available, or any staff who remember the original job, or even the basic resources (or inclination) to chase the matter up.

[cuthound]

11 hours ago, David Mack said:

But for that to work, it requires the client body firstly identify a defect with the work done up to 5-7 years later, then go back to the contractor or their insurer within the guarantee period, then argue about whether the defect is actually a result of inadequate work by the contractor or something else etc. etc.

 

In a clearcut case the contractor may make good the defect or the insurer pay out (so the client can engage another contractor). In less clear cases all sides will argue, and incur lots of staff time and lawyers bills, and the client won't always win. And that assumes that 5-7 years later the client body has the relevant original records available, or any staff who remember the original job, or even the basic resources (or inclination) to chase the matter up.

 

In 90"% of the claims, which to be fair were few and far between, the contractor simply came out and rectified the defect. Unless they did this they were unlikely to remain on the approved contractor list. Most claims against the insurance were where the contractor was no longer in business, and in almost all cases the insurance company simply paid out.

 

Where it was obvious that engaging another contractor would be cheaper than litigation that it what would happen. In my time there no case ever reached the litigation stage.

 

This was in the data centre world, where the clients are VERY demanding and covered everything from the building , access roads and surrounding landscaping through to the technical equipment contained within the building.

Edited January 2 by cuthound
Clarification

[Jimmy2445]

Hi everyone looking for info please ,is there any blockages from Burnley to Wigan and how long roughly will it take 

thanks

[Tracy D'arth]

1 hour ago, Jimmy2445 said:

Hi everyone looking for info please ,is there any blockages from Burnley to Wigan and how long roughly will it take 

thanks

Consult the Canal & River Trust/ stoppages website for up to date info to be sure. Then you have only emergency stoppages to   worry about.

[Cheshire cat]

Progress at last. Photograph shows the first of the bottom gates being lifted out. It gives some idea of how much stonework needs to be removed. Goodness knows where they will put it. The site hasn't enough room to swing a cat. 

 

Interestingly, it is Bentley who are doing the job rather than Kier who did the last one higher up the flight.

[Puffling]

Update on 12/02/2024:

 

We would like to offer a further update on our plans to repair Lock 7, on the Marple Flight, Peak Forest Canal.

This week our contractors have started the process of filling the lock with stone, which enables machinery to cross the area safely and stabilise the lock walls.

The next steps will include the installation of concrete piles, this is due to commence from Monday 26 February, we estimate this process to take approximately four weeks. Once the pilings are installed our contractors will start to dismantle the existing lock stonework, followed by the removal of the ground around the lock chamber.

Once the lock and the ground works have been completed, our contractors will begin rebuilding the lock chamber, and focus on the reinstatement of the lock gates, this work will run through April until May.

Whilst the repair will require substantial work, we anticipate the works to be completed, and navigation to resume on Friday 24 May.

We would like to take the opportunity to thank all our customers for their patience and understanding during these works, and we will continue to keep you updated as work progresses.

A further update will be provided mid-March.

[BilgePump]

Drove past yesterday on way to boat and big loader was unloading massive rebar lattice cylinders so assuming that that is something to do with the concrete piles menntined in post above. Sorry, no pic as was in car.

[Cheshire cat]

I'm sure some posts have gone missing from this thread. It's so e weeks from being finished. Concrete reinforcing is in place following rebuilding of lock wall. No lock gates on site at the moment 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Good photos, it’d be great to see some shots down into the lock if possible? 
 

[Cheshire cat]

Unfortunately you can't get close enough due to the fencing. There is a security guard and cctv so I didn't fancy giving them any grief.

 

There is also activity going on in one of the locks higher up the flight. There's a coffer dam and a couple of pumps keeping the lock dry so I'm guessing they are doing something to the lock floor. Again, you can't get close enough and there's no storyboard to say what is going on.

[Cheshire cat]

I notice from the C&RT site opening date is now expected to be June 14th

[Cheshire cat]

It's looking good for June 14th. The lock gates and the towpath have been reinstated.

Still heavy machinery on the offside but I presume they will disappear and the Hera's fencing be removed by  Friday. That will just leave some landscaping to do on the offside.

[Puffling]

Don't all rush at once...