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  4. They are living creatures with a right to life. They quack, they cr*p, they aren't particularly friendly, but I love chatting to them as I walk down the towpath.
  5. Okay, bad phrasing in the edit, before someone was pedantic about missing them off. Of course it's not a factor of 240, in the same way that 60 isn't a factor of 100. There were already way too many numbers in the post and thought it bleedin' obvious 😁
  6. The great thing about the pre decimal system of 20 shillings x 12d in each was that 240d can be divided by 2,3,4,5,6,8,10,12,15,16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80 and 120 giving a result of a whole number of pennies 100 new pence can only be divided by 2,4,5,10, 20, 25 and 50 eta: In another piece of useless information the Sumerians used sexagesimal or base 60 using two hands, again because it is an easily divisible number - by 2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20 and 30. You count up to 12 on one hand using the thumb to point at a finger joint, when you get to twelve you close a finger on the other hand. Modified versions of this base 60 are still in common use today in time and angle measurements (I've not included the 1, 100, 240 or 60 as factors in these three systems, although strictly they are too)
  7. Anyone like myself who only insures 3rd party, how does that work if it's assessed on insured value? No value assigned to the boat. Some people may have older NBs worth £20k or like me a little GRP worth 5% of that. Neither owner wants to pay for a valuation survey and willing to take the risk but they are still hugely different boats. I can accept paying by length for a licence and what's available for a mooring where I want to be (long CaRT mooring, small boat) but making the charging basis so much more complicated just seems to be an expensive can of worms for boaters and the overall admin costs.
  8. Always love an Arthur Ransome reference 🙂
  9. Precisely. As long as you don't bump someone up from single occupancy to multiple on council tax (25% discount here for single), and as long as the number of people squares up with the size of the house (don't register 15 boaters to a one bedroom flat), one extra person on the roll costs no more.
  10. I currently live in my dad's old home from his parents, his name is on the council tax as a second home. Your proposal would see me having to leave the canal I love because my life doesn't satisfy a tickbox scenario. Certainly couldn't live on my little Shetland but why the heck should I have to pay more (even at 3x) for my licence than a 70' narrowboat because the owner of that also owns a property? Just playing devil's advocate but people who lodge, live with family etc etc don't fit the 'Show us a council tax bill' criteria.
  11. Yes, it does look that way. I'd missed the pullman bit and just though the OP wanted to have a pull out thing.
  12. We used to have exactly the same layout - L dinette next to the galley - on our NB. At one point we thought about doing the same as the OP to have the option of an extra double berth and then realised what a major hassle it was going to be to rework it (and my dad had fitted out the boat himself). It just seemed that it would be easier to be able to drop the table and have some brackets and supports rather than having an extra thing that pulled out (and impeded access to storage space). The same principle as seen on lots of V berth cabin cruisers.
  13. And why not? Dawncraft 25 pulling a Norman Conquest 20. Great boats!
  14. Yes, good examples of boats that were the bread and butter of the canals in the 70s are great to see, be those the early steel hire boats or GRPs like Freeman, Fairline 19, Norman, Dawncraft etc. not to mention the beauty of the older wooden boats like Amaryllis. Wouldn't argue that they should all be eligible for any historic discount but they have a build quality and aesthetic that can be appreciated in the same way as a modern classic car. Of course, the steel and wooden boats will be maintenance demanding money pits but the GRP ones are much more budget friendly and many are now near 50 years old.
  15. I've got waterski towline eyes on the back of mine, but would need a much bigger outboard and Londinium's too far away to be of help!
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