Bingley Marine Engineering

[David Lodge]

Hi, I've just put a deposit down on a NB. built by Bingley. I can't find much info on the builder. Can anyone please tell me if they're good hull? Sonny is a 1980, 45ft cruiser stern . Cheers Dave. 

[ditchcrawler]

If its still floating after 43 years and the seams haven't split apart it must be quite good. More important will be how its been treated since it was built.

O welcome to the mad house

Edited August 31, 2023 by ditchcrawler

[Quattrodave]

30 minutes ago, David Lodge said:

I've just put a deposit down on a NB. built by Bingley. I can't find much info on the builder. Can anyone please tell me if they're good hull?

 

I'd have thought that would have been a question to be asked before you put a deposit down?!

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, David Lodge said:

Hi, I've just put a deposit down on a NB. built by Bingley. I can't find much info on the builder. Can anyone please tell me if they're good hull? Sonny is a 1980, 45ft cruiser stern . Cheers Dave. 

 

 

Hopefully on a 43 year old boat you will be having a thorough survey and the surveyor will tell you how good (or bad) the hull (and the rest of it) is.

 

You are having a survey, arn't you ?

[billh]

I know of a very solid Bingley Marine boat, 35ft 1976 build. A  survey , around 5 years ago, reported an excellent hull. The Lister ST2 engine is original fitting and has never had any work  done beyond routine service  and oil changes. Not a shapely hull design but it has certainly stood the test of time.

5 minutes ago, billh said:

I know of a very solid Bingley Marine boat, 35ft 1976 build. A  survey , around 5 years ago, reported an excellent hull. The Lister ST2 engine is original fitting and has never had any work  done beyond routine service  and oil changes. Not a shapely hull design but it has certainly stood the test of time.

ETA: I have known the boat from new- it's had many different paint schemes and several names.

[TheBiscuits]

Bingley Marine were an offshoot of a fuel tank company in Bingley.

 

Looking at some of the welding on my Bingley boat I have wondered if they let the apprentice try his hand at boats before allowing him to do fuel tanks ...

 

If it doesn't sink it's a good seam!

 

That's a bit tongue in cheek really, at my last survey a couple of years ago the surveyor's summary was "keep doing what you're doing and I'll see you in five years" which beats the pants off "needs overplating!"

 

 

 

[Tonka]

10 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

Hopefully on a 43 year old boat you will be having a thorough survey and the surveyor will tell you how good (or bad) the hull (and the rest of it) is.

 

You are having a survey, arn't you ?

Coming from someone who lambusts surveyors is a bit much

[TheBiscuits]

4 minutes ago, Tonka said:

Coming from someone who lambusts surveyors is a bit much

 

Not really.  Alan is very clear that he won't bother with surveys again but he has extensive experience with many different boats so he essentially does his own survey.

 

He doesn't say that everyone else should do the same, and in fact often recommends that new boaters get a survey.

 

Don't get him started about BSS inspectors though

 

[Tonka]

11 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

Not really.  Alan is very clear that he won't bother with surveys again but he has extensive experience with many different boats so he essentially does his own survey.

 

He doesn't say that everyone else should do the same, and in fact often recommends that new boaters get a survey.

 

Don't get him started about BSS inspectors though

 

And did he survey the boat that he needed the RNLI to rescue him

[Alan de Enfield]

19 minutes ago, Tonka said:

And did he survey the boat that he needed the RNLI to rescue him

 

You mean when the RNLI said "sorry we are too busy, you will have to make your own arrangements, we know your boat will roll over and sink, but see if you can get a tow before it does", they then called me up on the radio and said I should not be letting off pyrotechnics as they kept getting phone calls about a boat in distress - I then asked them how they proposed I get attention and find a boat to give me a tow.

 

I'm not convinced that a survey from when I bought the boat in 2015 would have picked up that in 2022 "leaving the marina in shallow water meant the water filters were choked with leaves and acorns, which resulted a lack of cooling water, which meant the impellers ran dry and stripped the vanes off, which then resulted in the 'cooler' end cap melting & becoming detached, which led to several 1000 litres of water going into the bilges, and because of a crack in the fuel tank cap meant that 200+ litres of water entered the fuel tank and the engines stopped"

 

If you are suggesting that a surveyor could have found that, 7 years before it happened I'd suggest he was actually a gypsy with a crystal ball, not a surveyor.

[Nightwatch]

5 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

You mean when the RNLI said "sorry we are too busy, you will have to make your own arrangements, we know your boat will roll over and sink, but see if you can get a tow before it does", they then called me up on the radio and said I should not be letting off pyrotechnics as they kept getting phone calls about a boat in distress - I then asked them how they proposed I get attention and find a boat to give me a tow.

 

I'm not convinced that a survey from when I bought the boat in 2015 would have picked up that in 2022 "leaving the marina in shallow water meant the water filters were choked with leaves and acorns, which resulted a lack of cooling water, which meant the impellers ran dry and stripped the vanes off, which then resulted in the 'cooler' end cap melting & becoming detached, which led to several 1000 litres of water going into the bilges, and because of a crack in the fuel tank cap meant that 200+ litres of water entered the fuel tank and the engines stopped"

 

If you are suggesting that a surveyor could have found that, 7 years before it happened I'd suggest he was actually a gypsy with a crystal ball, not a surveyor.

Good answer.