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Moisture resistant is the green stuff. It’s still not great and certainly not for exteriors or shower enclosures. WBP / marine ply is fine. Far better to use one of the modern waterproof systems like Wedi. When we build clients bathrooms we treat walls and floors as if it’s a wet room even though 99% aren’t. Peace of mind, though expensive.
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Proposed new accessible electric narrowboat.
Alan de Enfield replied to Andrew Grainger's topic in New to Boating?
I did - the figures quoted of ~80 - 92% are under specific conditions - kitchen and a wet room (both very high humidity) and a rate of exchange which would never be found on a NB. A NB is pretty much a single room. -
We very rarely use the toilets and showers on sites. It's just easier to use the ones on the van. Only time we have used site facilities has been when we have stayed somewhere for a few days at a time and we are conserving water and grey waste tank capacity rather than nipping to the service point. A couple of times in almost three years. We probably used the CRT facilities more when we had the boat, although again we rarely used them. It was easy enough to nip to the loo or grab a quick shower while the water tank was filling on the boat. If we were in the marina we would use the marina facilities to shower during the winter rather than the boat shower. There was no heating in the boat shower room as it was a wet room so it could drop a tad chilly in there at times. Much warmer in the toiler blocks.
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We currently have a 36' lumpy water boat - the twin tub lives under the bed in the aft cabin and the washing hangs in the wet-room/shower.(No tents on that one).
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One accident waiting to happen then might be, if you use your cauli-cupboard as an airing cupboard or drying room? Then it could become a wetting room by humidity or overflow. If the header is distant from the heat source, does one need some kind of steam blow-off valve? Air-r-jec valve? The idea of a boiling-mode failure having to blow the contents out of the whole system is scary.
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I have a similar challenge - a very small space which needs to function as the toilet, basin and shower. There are other priorities, such as getting stove installations finished to BSS, so for now it just has the Thetford cassette toilet in there, and the kitchen sink serves for everything else, but longer term it needs sorting out. I am going down the folding sink route. There are modern sinks such as the Cleo which would work well but doesn't fit the style of the boat so I will end up copying an Adams & Westlake one. The floor will have to double as the base for the toilet and the actual floor. Current plan is to inset a shower tray so the top edge is slightly above normal floor level and put a stand in - possibly duckboard or possibly a solid surface but with a gap around the edges and hollow underneath so the water runs off it and into the tray. A true wet room would possibly be less prone to leaking so I may yet do that, in polypropylene sheet. This can be welded in-situ using a hot air gun with a nozzle to form a bespoke sealed unit. Alec -
On our 36' cruiser we had 3 toilets so we decided to make one into a wet-room (shower), basically it was the size of a double wardrobe. Got a 'man im' who measured up and then prefabricated the entire floor and sides in panels that'd fit thru the door, vam enad installed and gelcoated over the lot. Made a tidy job. Space is too small to get much in the way of a single picture, but a couple of pics showing the walls and floor. 1) Outside wall and window 2) Curve of the outside wall, an inside bulhead wall and the floor curved due to the shape of the hull. 3) Shower head and ceiling 4) Floor and plughole (water gravity fed into grey water holding tank)
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I have what I guess is a very similar boat (Linssen 32) which has a wet-room/loo adjacent to the after-cabin. It looks like a gravity drain to (I am guessing) a sump with a whale gulper on the midship side to pump the grey water through a skin-fitting. I don't know what the sub-floor is built of, but the flooring is lapped about 4" up the side of the walls to form a sort of integral tray, which is exactly what I did on my camper with fibre-glass (except that is gravity drained to a tank). If I was doing it from scratch I would be tempted to source some proper marine ply rather than WBP, but the latter will do the job for a good few years. The shower area has a curtain to separate it from the loo, but you would have to walk through it as mentioned above (by @Ken X ), however I have found in the past that can be mitigated with a slatted mat type thing like this
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Have a look at how they do it in glamping pods, I hired one that had a combined wet room/toilet that was similar size to a standard toilet cubicle. -
You need to look at bathroom and tiling sites rather than on here. There are plenty of methods and products to achieve a wet room. Start by looking at Wedi building board and Mapei tanking solution and then work your way up in cost from there. Schlüter’s ditra matting system is probably the best known at a price but it’s a job that’s worth doing well as you don’t want to be revisiting it.
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Ok I see, I'd mistakenly assumed it was a Dutch barge with more space. I've never constructed a wet room myself so can't really help. The only advice I can give is possibly to use a clear flexible adhesive/sealant like Stixall rather than silicone because it's more permanent and less prone to leak. I used Stixall to seal the Showerwall joints in my shower and although it doesn't say anything about mould resistance it hasn't gone mouldy and that was about 8 years ago. It has a more solid rubber- like finish so I suspect water molecules can't get absorbed like they do with silicone. Use a dab of white spirit to prep surfaces and clean up before it goes off (several hours). There are other brands around from Screwfix and Toolstation that are essentially the same: Sticks like Sh*t, The Dogs B*llox, CT-1, etc. I'm not sure which are available in clear? I think the people in their marketing depts try to appeal to the lowest common chav denominator, but they are good products.
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Appreciate your response. Well yes I have a large flexible builders bucket that would be fine when we have hot summer weather! However a simple hot shower is essential for my purposes with no choice as to where to have it other than in the we compartment unfortunately. Perhaps you are not au fait with these small, 30 foot Dutch Cruisers but as one owner stated ‘ they are pocket boats ‘ , very snug and tight for space . Impossible to reposition a stand up shower , ready made or home made , anywhere. I meant to say that by me saying ‘wet room / shower room ‘ I am meaning either method will suffice , not fussed as such. It’s more to do with what’s best / what’s possible for the space. Yes there is only the gallery sink that is fine but I am convinced with ingenuity, patience and my 35 years of experience as a cabinet maker / antique furniture restorer- conservator, metal worker etc I will be able to achieve a basic watertight shower / wet room . -
tony, thanks for response and suggestions. It’s early days and will not be doing anything until early next year weather permitting. So at this stage I am looking at as many possibilities of achieving a wet room / shower room. My first task will be to strip out the existing smelly , dirty and highly unhygienic boarding inside . This will also free up a little bit more hitherto boarded over space. Then I can see what is underneath floor, walls etc. The original sea toilet was mounted on top of plywood step so with that removed I estimate I will gain 4 inches or so.
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ok thanks for your feedback. I can understand the inconvenience perhaps on a bigger boat but in this case we are talking about a very small space indeed. The original sea toilet has been removed and replaced with the smallest thetford unit. There is no wash hand basin hence my idea to use all the space as a ‘wet ‘room Thanks for responding. I was thinking of whale gulper to pump out grey water with WBP marine ply shower tray tanked with fibreglass. Wall frame of stud work to support Showerwall
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Arranging drainage on a boat that heels is tricky with a wet room, you risk it running out of the door! -
Our only experience of a wet room on a hire boat wasn't great. The shower and loo were in the same wet room so you had to cross a wet floor to use the loo which inevitably resulted in muddy footprints or wet feet. We assumed it had a leak in the lining somewhere as you could hear squishy noises as you walked around even it was dry. It went into the "not having one of those" file.🙂.
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I am planning to convert tiny WC compartment on steel hulled Dutch Cruiser. Would be useful to receive any ‘do’s , ‘ don’t ‘s / suggestions / advice please. cheers in advance
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I’ve got a 1983 Mike Heywood that I’ve had for 30 years like that. Makes a small compact wet room bathroom. And modern epoxy paints solve a lot of issues. Mines also 50ft with a JP2 and a back cabin etc.
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We dealt with a boat recently that had one of those in the well deck. Someone had put the hose in it and left it running. A few hours later it was noticed that the back end was low. The rear cabin was a good 6 inches of water under, which stretched forward to the bathroom. We started by using the wet room pump in the bathroom, and then using a holesaw managed to cut a hole in the flooring(2 sheets ply plus oak block,)and get a larger pump working. Warm days and a dehumidifier for a week saved the interior. In front of the well deck fitting was a steel raised seat, with a cushion on it. Under the cushion was another of those fittings.....connected to the water tank!! -
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Wet rooms in a narrow boat
BoatinglifeupNorth replied to jddevel's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
Thank you for putting me on your ignore list. I must be one of many. He was a wind up poster hence his final post. I asked what the f@ck has his post got to do with the original post/wet room of 6 year ago, it was not calling him. Your the one that started the calling bit with your “penis cranium” but you’ll deny it and say it was others that started it. 😂 -
Wet rooms in a narrow boat
BoatinglifeupNorth replied to jddevel's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
@Captain GoodBoy Another wind up merchant, what the f@ck is it to do with wet rooms, could be bothered to read a 6 year old post. So @Captain GoodBoy start a new Thread with your idea, why are people replying/entertaining? Oh and welcome to the forum😂😂 Jen, are you taking this this seriously????? -
Another question.... For our teeny tiny wet room we need a light, the other one has no label or anything. We are all 12V - would something like this be ok? Dream Lighting LED Ceiling Lights 12v Caravan Interior Lighting Motorhome Campervan Boat On/off Switch Great Power Saving https://amzn.eu/d/9BJTg2i
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Dutch barge style narrowboats
designbywhacky replied to jupiter1124's topic in Boat Building & Maintenance
I have done a lot of research on this, visiting many adapted boats and working with lots of folk over the years in my vested interest with many boaters of all abilities with disabledboaters.org. Yes there are compromises to be made, I lived on a former hire boat which we have just sold which restricted me even further meaning when legs not working I was literally trapped at times legs not working. Lyneal trust is one of the organizations that has adapted boats for holidays, (yes I know different to livaboards) and it works well. I am very lucky to be building from scratch so can incorporate a wheel chair lift into a boot room or boatmans cabin area at about 4 foot long. then in to a galley with narrower cabinets on one side and full side on the other allowing good wide passage through and loads of storage at the same time, saloon will have an already adapted sofa I had made by elite furnishings and lift off tables, then a walk through wet room with appropriate fittings and sliding doors, then 2 bedrooms with single beds so accessible for chair and help if needed to get onto beds. follow through to snug or study come dressing room in the extended cabin. all planned out to leave turning circles in boatmans cabin space, saloon. wet room and bow cabin. If anything this boat will defo have a lot more storage, and more usuable space than my old boat. and be a lot less restrictive, as I can design from scratch to my personal needs. Bottom line is with a bit of research and thought it is extremely doable , no different from bricks and mortar in that respect,
