BoatinglifeupNorth

The OP could also probably save time and money by modifying his narrowboat as in his last post he says he has a 70ft Narrowboat moored on the T&M, he could possibly save £1000’s by shortening and modifying it to suit his coastal ambitions??? Then again in his first post he doesn’t mention his Narrowboat but says, “I have been hire boating many years, but now that I'm retired I'm ready to sell up and build my dream liveaboard, so I thought I would join this forum and get some advice.” I’m not really taking this Thread too seriously and others may think the same as myself “Cloud-Cuckoo Land”

Glad I’m not the only one that thinks the OP is on Cloud-Cuckoo land. I wanted to say that on the 1st post but then I would of been slatted by the “No wonder Newbies don’t stay brigade” so had to be a bit PC for the dreamers👍😂

As I said I can’t work the build spec out as I don’t think any of it is needed for the the 10% he says he’ll not be on the canals.

And you know the “reality” of the cost of a new all electric boat and what it entails for it to work efficiently, unlike most on here. I don’t want to be disrespectful to the OP but when he says he’s hoping more like just over £200K I thought he needs a big reality check. Even making the beam 7’ instead of 6’10” with 20mm base plate adds £thousands and the extra 2” beam will add no major improvements but could add significant problems with locks.

It’s not obscene to talk about budgets as without a healthy budget it’s pointless having all these ideas as you couldn’t afford them. Your lower £200K budget wouldn’t even work for a standard all electric narrowboat, but add on all the extras, technical, 10Knt electric motor speed, extra steel work for the 10% of cruising you think you need these ideas for then £400K could soon disappear. I don’t know why your overthinking so much, as all the routes you mention have been done by Narrowboats from what I’ve seen, so why not just get a good shorter Narrowboat with a large HP diesel engine and enjoy it before your too old. How old are you? On his first post he’s talking about electric drive. So maybe he’s going the all electric route? So no big diesel engine.

@Redhawk106 You say you don’t want to sell your widebeam and rent a flat, how about selling your widebeam and buying a Narrowboat you may find it easier?

It would take years and a vast sum of money well over £500K and the rest if any boat builder would want to do it. That’s why I asked his age and how much he is willing to spend on what could turn out an expensive “White Elephant” that never gets finished or leaves the boat yard.

Your going to sell up and live on this dream boat, can I ask your age and how much your prepared to spend on this dream boat? How much do think this dream boat will cost you with your quirky ideas?

Maybe a “U” Boat, on the surface on Canals and beneath the waves on the Sea, the OP has mentioned fitting Snorkels😂 I think I’ll jump ship on this one as I can’t really take it seriously.

I don’t know if the OP knows standard Narrowboats are 6’10”, but on his dream boat he says he wants a 7’ beam and Leeboards, so may find it, as you say tight and a bit restrictive to where he can go, where there’s Narrow Locks involved. In all honesty the more I read the OP’s ideas the more ridiculous they sound, things like: “interested in a cruiser deck that has rigid lid that folds down over the superstructure which is another unusual feature I know but I think would help keep the boat watertight” “And then both sides and roof I would want virtually covered in solar panels. In fact I'm thinking of using the solar panels almost structurally, in that the boat would be a frame with solar panels fitting into the frame”

Welcome, a lot of ideas and a lot of re-inventing the wheel???? To save all the expense and time. why not just buy a standard Narrowboat and do all the inland waterways and when you’ve done all you want of that, sell it and buy a coastal cruiser and do coastal waters? This would save you a lot of time and probably a lot of money with the type of boat your dreaming of building.

But it doesn’t take the brains of a Bishop to know that over the last few years after lockdown hundreds if not thousands of boats have been sold and bought. Yourself and Alan keep going on about “Brokers” and cases that you can’t remember but have been mentioned on here about RCD/RCR problems/nightmares, Brokers refusing to sell non RCD/RCR boats but you fail to give any substantial evidence if any to your claims. So all the “Scope Boats” sold since say lockdown by BMF Brokers or any reputable broker have all had complying paperwork RCD and documentation? Come on be real and take the Rose coloured glasses off.

I would say there are thousands more second-hand “In Scope boats” that have been bought and sold through Brokerage without a complying RCD/RCR over the last 5 years never mind since 1998 that have been sold with one and it’s still going on this weekend. You and @Alan de Enfield keep going on about brokers refusing to sell boats without naming any, so I would say it’s you that needs to prove and back up your words and not me to waste my time.

Please define what you call an “In Scope Boat” or is it basically a boat built post RCD introduction 1998. Do you know of any specific BMF Brokers that are turning boats built post 1998 away because of non conformity RCD/RCR, if so as you’ve been asked please name the Broker😱

Especially the two posters that jump on every RCD/RCR/Compliant Paperwork Post on here and start quoting the Law and Brokers refusing to sell boats and I’ll name them @Tony Brooks @Alan de Enfield 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱