jactomtroub Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 My boat has a Ruston Hornsby 2YD built in 1959 in Lincoln. I am finding it difficult to find much information about the early 2YD. Although I know a bit about the history of my engine. Can anyone help please?
MtB Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, jactomtroub said: My boat has a Ruston Hornsby 2YD built in 1959 in Lincoln. I am finding it difficult to find much information about the early 2YD. Although I know a bit about the history of my engine. Can anyone help please? Do you mean historical information about the company and how the 2YD came to be designed and produced? Or technical information like what torque to tighten the head bolts, what lubricants to use and how often to service it?
jactomtroub Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Posted June 4, 2017 Any info really I know that Ruston ended up in India but that's about it. We have an original service book for it so have a good idea what it needs technically. Really interested in any info. Really like the engine it's a great lump of a thing. I am very much into old engines but my actual knowledge is rather lacking. I'm working on this though!
IanR Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 There is a good Facebook Group on the subject. My boat has a Ruston too (1946 4VSH) and they've been a friendly and helpful bunch. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=408369335988386&ref=br_rs Hope this helps, Ian.
Jessydog Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Hi I have a 3 yd built in 1960 in a canal if you need any info on these may be able to help
BEngo Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 General info about R&H on the Internal Fire website under technical info the company histories. They are apparently part of Siemens these days. I believe the Indian operation was a licence build of some designs by by Greaves. Ray Hooley was the go to man for information but the archive now seems tobe with Lincolnshire council/university. Rustons are popular in the stationary engine fraternity so a look at the stationary engine sites and forums may be enlightening. N
Colin Brendan Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Phil Lizius of Longboat Engineering is also fairly knowedgeable about these. Esp. The Greaves ones.
1stArthur Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 Does anyone know if a 2YD is powerful enough for a 57’ narrowboat on the Thames ?
MtB Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, 1stArthur said: Does anyone know if a 2YD is powerful enough for a 57’ narrowboat on the Thames ? I'd say it will be fine for normal use. Not necessarily fine for cruising during red boards, but then there are red boards, and RED BOARDS.
David Mack Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, 1stArthur said: Does anyone know if a 2YD is powerful enough for a 57’ narrowboat on the Thames ? 35-38 hp @ 2000/2200 rpm depending on which variant you have. More than adequate as long as you have a reasonably appropriate prop size for the gearbox ratio. https://realdiesels.co.uk/rustondata.html
1stArthur Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 Thank you The engine is in a boat that I’m interested in buying it’s advertised as a Ruston Hornsey 2YD which I think is an 38hp and at this point I don’t know what prop it has . 1 hour ago, MtB said: I'd say it will be fine for normal use. Not necessarily fine for cruising during red boards, but then there are red boards, and RED BOARDS. Ok thank you, I don’t think I would be cruising when there are yellow boards let alone Red so with the right prop it should be ok.
Tony Brooks Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 If it helps. I had a nominal 36 bhp engine in a 54ft boat and I navigated the Thames on red boards without any trouble or excitement BUT it did have a well-matched Crowthers prop and I think that I can read the water and use the flow to my advantage. Of more importance is knowing when it is sensible to stay tied up.
1stArthur Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 Thank you The engine is in a boat that I’m interested in buying it’s advertised as a Ruston Hornsey 2YD which I think is an 38hp and at this point I don’t know what prop it has The other question is the engine cooled by a skin tank and could you heat a Calorifier with it .
David Mack Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, 1stArthur said: Thank you The engine is in a boat that I’m interested in buying it’s advertised as a Ruston Hornsey 2YD which I think is an 38hp and at this point I don’t know what prop it has . But it almost certainly has a reasonably well matched prop. Maybe not the absolute best, but unlikely to be so bad that you can't easily navigate the Thames in green or yellow conditions.
1stArthur Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 If this engine is water cooled could it heat a Calorifier ie heat the water .?
David Mack Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 If its a 2YD it's water cooled and can heat a calorifier. If its a 2YDA it's air cooled.
1stArthur Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 Thank you it’s a 2YD so that should be ok . Where would you go to get a Ruston Hornsby repaired?
MtB Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, 1stArthur said: Thank you it’s a 2YD so that should be ok . Where would you go to get a Ruston Hornsby repaired? 1945
David Mack Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 15 hours ago, 1stArthur said: Thank you it’s a 2YD so that should be ok . Where would you go to get a Ruston Hornsby repaired? What repair does it need?
billh Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 15 hours ago, MtB said: 1945 Nope. Try 1955, YC and YD are "modern" 😀 Rustons. For WW2 era, VR,VS and VT for NB sizes .
MtB Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 8 hours ago, john.k said: Whats the difference between a YC and a YD? Same bore and stroke, but the YD revs a lot higher so more power. 1
Tony Brooks Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 52 minutes ago, MtB said: Same bore and stroke, but the YD revs a lot higher so more power. but not necessarily more torque, which is what the prop wants.
MtB Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: but not necessarily more torque, which is what the prop wants. That's a brave assertion. The relationship between prop characteristics, engine characteristics and transmission reduction ratio is more complex than even the prop calc tools suggest, in my personal experience. But I'm sure John.k knows that already! Edited July 15, 2023 by MtB Tinker with it
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