PayPal donations?

[Jim Riley]

I enjoy an ad free forum, I make a monthly donation via PayPal. It's quite expensive to go ad free on Thunderboat.

However I'm reviewing my contribution, in the light of all the kerfuffle, hearing that the site may go commercial etc.. Could we have a breakdown of costs, there can't be many headings;hosting fee out, donations in, what else?

[Arthur Marshall]

I don't think there have been any suggestions that the site may go commercial, rather the opposite. Someone just mentioned ads on another thread, and the commercialisation of the site and database if Dan were to sell it as something we'd all want to avoid..

As far as I'm aware, the suggestion that we should contribute a small amount towards the upkeep of the site was made by one of the members (not Dan or any of the mods), so as it's voluntary, there's no particular reason why I'd expect a balance sheet to be published. I doubt if the owner's making a fortune out of those of us who do contribute.

I run a couple of sites for people (without charging) and it's hard to quantify costs - hosting fees are easy enough, but how do you quote for your own time, and once you start providing financial details with all the hassle that entails (plus that of the input of a couple of hundred members who would be sure they could do it cheaper!), you'd have to, really?

[Jim Riley]

I don't think there have been any suggestions that the site may go commercial, rather the opposite. Someone just mentioned ads on another thread, and the commercialisation of the site and database if Dan were to sell it as something we'd all want to avoid..

As far as I'm aware, the suggestion that we should contribute a small amount towards the upkeep of the site was made by one of the members (not Dan or any of the mods), so as it's voluntary, there's no particular reason why I'd expect a balance sheet to be published. I doubt if the owner's making a fortune out of those of us who do contribute.

I run a couple of sites for people (without charging) and it's hard to quantify costs - hosting fees are easy enough, but how do you quote for your own time, and once you start providing financial details with all the hassle that entails (plus that of the input of a couple of hundred members who would be sure they could do it cheaper!), you'd have to, really?

I understand all that you say, no need for personal time £. I understand Dan owns it, runs it voluntarily with others, many contribute ideas etc. It's almost a community enterprise. I don't think anyone is getting rich legally or otherwise. It's best if things are transparent.

I await a response.

[GoodGurl]

I understand all that you say, no need for personal time £. I understand Dan owns it, runs it voluntarily with others, many contribute ideas etc. It's almost a community enterprise. I don't think anyone is getting rich legally or otherwise. It's best if things are transparent.

I await a response.

Dan does post the finances after Ange has done the paperwork, i guess you need to wait untill he does it again.

here are Januarys finances for all to see, probly time it was updated actually.

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=81864

[bag 'o' bones]

Dan has mentioned recently he has no intention of commercialising CWDF.

[gazza]

I enjoy an ad free forum, I make a monthly donation via PayPal. It's quite expensive to go ad free on Thunderboat.

However I'm reviewing my contribution, in the light of all the kerfuffle, hearing that the site may go commercial etc.. Could we have a breakdown of costs, there can't be many headings;hosting fee out, donations in, what else?

 

Try this.

 

https://adblockplus.org/

 

 

Works well on my creaky rugby forum that is unusable without it.

 

 

http://m.rugbynetwork.net/boards/list/s99.htm?101

[MtB]

Try this.

 

https://adblockplus.org/

 

 

Works well on my creaky rugby forum that is unusable without it.

 

 

http://m.rugbynetwork.net/boards/list/s99.htm?101

 

 

Is everyone happy with the standard of moderation on there?

[carlt]

Try this.

 

https://adblockplus.org/

 

 

Works well on my creaky rugby forum that is unusable without it.

 

 

http://m.rugbynetwork.net/boards/list/s99.htm?101

Yes but they keep guilt tripping me with...

 

Please consider supporting this website by disabling your ad-blocker.

This website does not use audio ads, popups, or other annoyances. Thank you!

Edited October 19, 2016 by bag 'o' bones

[gazza]

 

 

Is everyone happy with the standard of moderation on there?

Yes, we are all united in greif at the moment - the knives are out for the coaching team and the club board.

 

The one idiot poster that spammed every thread with his pointless drivel was ejected a couple of weeks ago.

Good even handed light moderation is priceless.

 

Do you have any answers to the Op's questions?

Yes but they keep guilt tripping me with...

 

 

 

 

There is no moderation to be unhappy about.

The eds kicked an irritating spamming know-all off a couple of weeks ago.....

[carlt]

Seriously?

Mike asked a reasonable question and I answered in a totally reasonable way and you do not have the decency to PM me with an explanation about why you have edited my post and completely deleted his?

Pathetic!

Edited October 19, 2016 by carlt

[gazza]

Bag o bones.

 

Here is the link to the person I was referring to.

 

http://m.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read/s99.htm?101,15760919

 

Perhaps you would do Carl and MtB the courtesy of explaining what went on?

 

ETA Hadn't noticed MtB is Incensed at this as well

Edited October 19, 2016 by gazza

[carlt]

 

 

Is everyone happy with the standard of moderation on there?

Probably much happier than the standard of moderation on here.

[smileypete]

Dan has mentioned recently he has no intention of commercialising CWDF.

 

Really? If you can point me to it that would help out.

 

Although 'intention' is a bit of a Blair word!

[DHutch]

The site is indeed funded by voluntary donations, and run by voluntary labour.

 

The donations made by members goes solely on the tangible real running costs of keeping the site on-line. These are principally made up of hosting costs, software costs, off-site backup costs, and domain fees in that order. No surpass is made at present, and no money has ever gone into my pocket or that of any of the other staff in fact in the past when the site was smaller I covered the costs out of my own pocket for quite a number of years.

 

The site turns over a little over £1000 as per Ange's report at the start of this year.

 

There is another thread, which contains the previous forum expenditure which I updated before Ange took over the role.

 

 

Daniel

[Guest]

 

 

Is everyone happy with the standard of moderation on there?

 

Well I guess if people were not they would say so, and to the best of my knowledge no one has ever complained about it or started a thread about it, unlike here. The reason of course is that there isn't any (apart from a very limited removal of posts that would very obviously cause legal difficulties).

 

People join knowing this and clearly if it doesn't suit then don't join.

[gazza]

Yes but they keep guilt tripping me with...

 

You don't seem the type to be easily guilt tripped! Edited October 20, 2016 by gazza

[Tony Brooks]

Possibly the majority of those that support rugby tend towards the more "red blooded" end of the scale and if what my wife tells me about the odd football game she has attended are very used to bad language and crudeness so are used to a bit of bad language etc. I think the members and readers of this forum are likely to be far more diverse and some may not be used to bad language, crude jokes and sometimes quiet fiery personal attacks.

 

I do not think that all forums need the same degree of moderation and can see this one may be better with a bit (only a bit) more than some others. However I find this example all rather OOT, especially if the swearing allegation is true. Its hard to understand.

[carlt]

You don't seem the type to be easily guilt tripped!

No I just use ad-blocker to cover up the annoying messages asking me to disable ad-blocker.

[gazza]

 

 

Possibly the majority of those that support rugby tend towards the more "red blooded" end of the scale and if what my wife tells me about the odd football game she has attended are very used to bad language and crudeness so are used to a bit of bad language etc. I think the members and readers of this forum are likely to be far more diverse and some may not be used to bad language, crude jokes and sometimes quiet fiery personal attacks.

 

I do not think that all forums need the same degree of moderation and can see this one may be better with a bit (only a bit) more than some others. However I find this example all rather OOT, especially if the swearing allegation is true. Its hard to understand.

How wrong you would be Tony. Instead of stereotyping go and have a look for yourself.

The idea of drunk thugs and soggy biscuits is as old as the hills and totally incorrect in most cases.

[Tony Brooks]

How wrong you would be Tony. Instead of stereotyping go and have a look for yourself.

The idea of drunk thugs and soggy biscuits is as old as the hills and totally incorrect in most cases.

 

Your phrase not mine and NOT what I had in mind. To see how moderation actually operates rather than what is written one has to read it for some time. I am not going to waste my time reading a forum for several weeks dedicated to something I have no interest in.

[gazza]

 

Your phrase not mine and NOT what I had in mind. To see how moderation actually operates rather than what is written one has to read it for some time. I am not going to waste my time reading a forum for several weeks dedicated to something I have no interest in.

I know, and your sweary red blooded male comment was equally unhelpful!

 

OK, in your first post on this topic - what's the point of making your point in which you see no point discussing the point?

 

Do you get my point?

 

[mark99]

 

Possibly the majority of those that support rugby tend towards the more "red blooded" end of the scale and if what my wife tells me about the odd football game she has attended are very used to bad language and crudeness so are used to a bit of bad language etc.

 

Reminds me of the story of our secretary. She took her young lad to a premiership footie match and he gets a ball kicked straight into his face which floored him. The club were really good about it and arranged for him to visit the club after and receive a signed ball from the stars which was filmed - it made local tv.

 

In the footie club forum afterwards the thread re this incident soon turned into a lusty crowd of knuckle dragging oafs focussed on the mum and it decended into unbelievebly bad depths.

 

When the lad fully grows up he may find the thread

Edited October 20, 2016 by mark99

[Boat&Bikes]

The two other forums i visit are Lotus and Kawasaki one's. I can't remember any problems and when posters disagree they do so amicably. This forum seems to have lots of argumentative types. Almost as though some look for a chance to wind up others. I find it a little annoying. Possibly its due to some people having too much time on their hands.

 

Ian.

[Guest]

The two other forums i visit are Lotus and Kawasaki one's. I can't remember any problems and when posters disagree they do so amicably. This forum seems to have lots of argumentative types. Almost as though some look for a chance to wind up others. I find it a little annoying. Possibly its due to some people having too much time on their hands.

 

Ian.

 

Just the the type of tiresome oft. repeated comment that causes the very type of conflict you seem to be objecting to. Maybe people just enjoy spending their time doing forums rather than other things.

 

I could say people who go fishing have 'too much time on their hands' because it's a pastime I just do not get but it's their choice isn't it?? It only affects you if you choose to read what these people post, there is always the option not to.

[MtB]

Swerving off topic a sec, I've heard it claimed with some vigour that fishing is a sport not a pastime. Rubbish, obviously, but where does the division lie? There was an attempt to class the card game 'bridge' as a sport recently too IIRC.