Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My 230V "table top" freezer is about 8 years old. I am wondering if I need to replace it. During the recent warm spell it has been using an average of 0.61kW-h/day which is about 51Ah/day. I am wondering if this is reasonable or if I could do significantly better with a new one. Has anyone any data for their freezer? I measured the consumption using a plug in energy meter. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Technology and insulation has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Technology and insulation has moved on. Yup. That's what I would have thought but it would be nice to have some data so that I can decide whether or no to replace it. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Looking at the sepc for a Lec it uses about 0.3 Kwh per day and is A+ http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/refrigeration/fridges/lec-r50052w-mini-fridge-white-20078190-pdt.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgLGuBRCqptLsnJCvh-wBEiQAiNRjsfcq2qL3oQecISPgSNZ0ke6xpVVPQF1Ucc5kv-staUUaAkc58P8HAQ&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!62611110564!!!g!67793486502!&ef_id=UPWc-gAACLnPyXWg:20150813170943:s Edited August 13, 2015 by ditchcrawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My freezer (A+) allegedly uses 400w per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Looking at the sepc for a Lec it uses about 0.3 Kwh per day and is A+ http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/refrigeration/fridges/lec-r50052w-mini-fridge-white-20078190-pdt.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgLGuBRCqptLsnJCvh-wBEiQAiNRjsfcq2qL3oQecISPgSNZ0ke6xpVVPQF1Ucc5kv-staUUaAkc58P8HAQ&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!62611110564!!!g!67793486502!&ef_id=UPWc-gAACLnPyXWg:20150813170943:s But that is a Mini Fridge, not a freezer. My freezer (A+) allegedly uses 400w per day 400Wh? N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 400Wh? N From the specification : Ambient temperature 16 to 32°C and therefore . EAN: 4810430. Noise level 41dB. Energy consumption: 153kWh per year based on standard test results for 24 hours. I have taken 153,000 over 365 to get an approximate 400w per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Well Theo's unit calculates out at 222Kw per annum - so 1/3 more than a randomly chosen 'equivalent'. I just looked at a unit from Tesco direct (TT freezers are not hugely popular at the mo - so not many to choose from) and it uses 'a whopping 193 Kw/ yr:- http://www.tesco.com/direct/fridgemaster-mttz4430-freezer-440mm-white/723-2025.prd?pageLevel= so perhaps your existing isn't all that bad anyway. IM(not very H) O, I reckon it's the larger units where there have been major changes in efficiency. Theo, please - it I might ask what size (power output rating) is your inverter and pure sine or quasi sine? (Still trying to get my options to change my F/F. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 From the specification : Ambient temperature 16 to 32°C and therefore . EAN: 4810430. Noise level 41dB. Energy consumption: 153kWh per year based on standard test results for 24 hours. I have taken 153,000 over 365 to get an approximate 400w per day My post in reply to yours was in the nature of a mild correction to your use of units. You stated the units as 400 watts (rate of conversion of energy) per day. You meant 400 watt-hours(energy) per day. I am sure that the numbers are useful. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Well Theo's unit calculates out at 222Kw per annum - so 1/3 more than a randomly chosen 'equivalent'. I just looked at a unit from Tesco direct (TT freezers are not hugely popular at the mo - so not many to choose from) and it uses 'a whopping 193 Kw/ yr:- http://www.tesco.com/direct/fridgemaster-mttz4430-freezer-440mm-white/723-2025.prd?pageLevel= so perhaps your existing isn't all that bad anyway. IM(not very H) O, I reckon it's the larger units where there have been major changes in efficiency. Theo, please - it I might ask what size (power output rating) is your inverter and pure sine or quasi sine? (Still trying to get my options to change my F/F. thanks. My inverter is a 3kW pure sine wave model. I bought it about 18months ago and it cost about £600. Unfortunately my emails about this have disappeared into the ether so I con't find out where I got it from ATM. I did post a link a year ago so I might bre able to track it down on the forum. Edited August 13, 2015 by Theo To add "pure sine wave" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 But that is a Mini Fridge, not a freezer. That is because I Googled freezer and believed it instead of checking. Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My inverter is a 3kW pure sine wave model. I bought it about 18months ago and it cost about £600. Unfortunately my emails about this have disappeared into the ether so I con't find out where I got it from ATM. I did post a link a year ago so I might bre able to track it down on the forum. Aha - many thanks! (FWIW - I'm trying to find the smallest /most efficient unit to run only the FF to compare the cost of either running a mains unit or getting 12Volt-fridges.com to do a Danfoss conversion. The stumbling block is he will only convert units which are smaller that SWMBO 'demands' ) 3KW is great but £600 is much more than a FF converted to 12/24V complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My inverter is a 3kW pure sine wave model. I bought it about 18months ago and it cost about £600. Unfortunately my emails about this have disappeared into the ether so I con't find out where I got it from ATM. I did post a link a year ago so I might bre able to track it down on the forum. Here is the link again. It has been working faultlessly (in terms of it's output), running aour Zanussi washer and everything else. The only fault is that the fancy cooling fan circuitry is slightly faulty. From time to time, when the air around the inverter is warm, it switches the fan on and off repeatedly at a frequency of about 0.35Hz. Here is the link again. It has been working faultlessly (in terms of it's output), running aour Zanussi washer and everything else. The only fault is that the fancy cooling fan circuitry is slightly faulty. From time to time, when the air around the inverter is warm, it switches the fan on and off repeatedly at a frequency of about 0.35Hz. PS I see that it is now for sale at £429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My post in reply to yours was in the nature of a mild correction to your use of units. You stated the units as 400 watts (rate of conversion of energy) per day. You meant 400 watt-hours(energy) per day. I am sure that the numbers are useful. Thanks. 33Ah per day ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 33Ah per day ?? Just so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 33Ah per day ?? I actually 'round it' to 40Ah per day being as its supplied by an Inverter and the inherent lnefficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top cat Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Our 12V lec fridge freezer uses a measured 36 Ah per day in an ambient temperature of about 20C. It goes up rapidly as the temperature rises. Top Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I actually 'round it' to 40Ah per day being as its supplied by an Inverter and the inherent lnefficiencies. And that's about what my full size under counter 12v freezer uses.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 And that's about what my full size under counter 12v freezer uses. Phil No argument from me. The 220v benefit being is that the difference in purchase price of around £500 would pay for a new battery bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 No argument from me. The 220v benefit being is that the difference in purchase price of around £500 would pay for a new battery bank Wow! is that what they cost nowadays, ouch!Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Wow! is that what they cost nowadays, ouch! Phil One example of a 12v freezer (other options and suppliers available) £699 http://www.shoreline-marine.co.uk/freezers/integrated/intergrated-freezer-buf95 And, a (slightly smaller) 220v one at £120 http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/Beko-UF483APW-Under-Counter-Freezer-in-White/id-BEK-UFZ-UF483APW-W?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgLGuBRCqptLsnJCvh-wBEiQAiNRjsYZnkA_SIQHEgz6ae4-I-Aom_Om9YOP3xzqB0NXLn14aAkBw8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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