Mooring on"Remainder" canals

[rasputin]

Are the mooring rules and regulations on"Remainder" canals any different to normal?

[RLWP]

No

 

Richard

[b0atman]

if under CRT Then 14 days unless signposted differently

[RLWP]

if under CRT Then 14 days unless signposted differently

 

In other words, exactly the same as on any CRT canal

 

Richard

[ditchcrawler]

 

In other words, exactly the same as on any CRT canal

 

Richard

Yes

[MtB]

Ok I'll ask as no-one else has.

 

Why do you ask?

 

 

MtB

[junior]

Ok, as every day is a learning day, what is a remainder canal?

[MtB]

Ok, as every day is a learning day, what is a remainder canal?

 

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=remainder+canals

 

 

E.G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_British_canal_system:

 

 

 

Transport Act 1968

The Transport Act 1968 classified the nationalised waterways as:

• Commercial - Waterways that could still support commercial traffic;
• Cruising - Waterways that had a potential for leisure use, such as cruising, fishing and recreational use;
• Remainder - Waterways that no potential commercial or leisure use could be seen for.

British Waterways Board was required, under the Act, to keep Commercial Waterways, mainly in the north-east, fit for commercial use; and Cruising Waterways fit for cruising. However, these obligations were subject to the caveat of being by the most economical means. There was no requirement to maintain Remainder waterways or keep them in a navigable condition; they were to be treated in the most economic way possible, which could mean abandonment. British Waterways could also change the classification of an existing waterway. Parts, or all, of a Remainder Waterway canal could also be transferred to local authorities, etc.; and this transfer could, as happened, allow roads and motorways to be built over them, mitigating the need to provide (expensive) accommodation bridges or aqueducts. The act also allowed local authorities to contribute to the upkeep of Remainder Waterways.^[19]

Edited September 21, 2014 by Mike the Boilerman

[cuthound]

And of course, the K&A changed from "remainder" to "cruising" status. The only example to date if I recall correctly.

[MtB]

And of course, the K&A changed from "remainder" to "cruising" status. The only example to date if I recall correctly.

 

 

Yes.

 

Astonishing isn't it that it took until around 2011 for it to be recognised that the K&A had "a potential for leisure use, such as cruising, fishing and recreational use"?

 

MtB

[mango]

And of course, the K&A changed from "remainder" to "cruising" status. The only example to date if I recall correctly.

The Ashton and Caldon are other examples I believe.

[mayalld]

And of course, the K&A changed from "remainder" to "cruising" status. The only example to date if I recall correctly.

 

Far from it.

 

A number of canals were reclassified in BWA 1983

[mango]

 

 

Yes.

 

Astonishing isn't it that it took until around 2011 for it to be recognised that the K&A had "a potential for leisure use, such as cruising, fishing and recreational use"?

 

MtB

That has only changed because a lot of money has been spent on restoring it. Most of that money came from the Lottery.

[rasputin]

And the northern reaches of the Lancaster Canal.

[mayalld]

 

 

Yes.

 

Astonishing isn't it that it took until around 2011 for it to be recognised that the K&A had "a potential for leisure use, such as cruising, fishing and recreational use"?

 

MtB

 

Of course that isn't what happened.

 

The status of a canal is largely about money.

 

A remainder waterway can (indeed must) be dealt with, so as to minimise costs and maximise income, and in the past, this meant becoming non-navigable and having some water supply and fishing income.

 

A cruising waterway must remain open, even if closing it would make economic sense.

 

The law doesn't prevent a remainder waterway remaining open, but it can only remain open if that is the cheapest option.

 

So reclasifying a canal as a cruising waterway means taking on an open ended commitment to that canal staying open, without getting any more money to achieve that.

 

As such, they don't reclasify lightly.

 

So, the HNC (for example) is still a remainder waterway. It remains open because BW entered into an agreement to keep it open for 125 years, in return for money paid into their coffers over 25 years up front. They could close the canal, but to do so would have to repay the money to the various funders. When they entered into the agreement, they did so on the basis that the money they would get from the funders made keeping the canal open as cheap as closing it. Now they have taken the money, it is as cheap to keep it open as to repay the money.

 

So, at present, the HNC is as secure as a remainder waterway as it would be as a cruising waterway. It may be that in the future some further funding may be dependent upon reclasification, and they will do it then.