dockgateman Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 can anyone tell me the most reliable manual or electrical system you can buy to pump out toilet on NB, and I don't mean go into a marina or C & RT service stations a long the canals, I have seen a boater pumping out toilet using a bellows type pump and wonder if you can buy these pumps or other system on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Oh dear - stand by for some abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiRSqwared Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 can anyone tell me the most reliable manual or electrical system you can buy to pump out toilet on NB, and I don't mean go into a marina or C & RT service stations a long the canals, I have seen a boater pumping out toilet using a bellows type pump and wonder if you can buy these pumps or other system on the market. Google I'd your friend...try Leesan. The popcorn is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Midland chandlers sell suitable pumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 To save some time and bandwidth here are 133 replies to your question - click the link http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=65573&hl=%2Bself+%2Bpumpout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) you need a whale diaphragm pump I got mine from puffer parts at keighly about £100 with some pipe I did pipe work with banjo clip connectors so it breaks down into 3 parts I pump into 2 x 5 gallon containers and think that it has saved me a lot of money especially when one marina is asking £25 for a pump out ouch. Edited May 18, 2014 by b0atman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 can anyone tell me the most reliable manual or electrical system you can buy to pump out toilet on NB, and I don't mean go into a marina or C & RT service stations a long the canals, I have seen a boater pumping out toilet using a bellows type pump and wonder if you can buy these pumps or other system on the market. I have to ask the question that others may possibly be thinking: Purely as a casual matter of interest you understand: "Where do you hope to pump out the toilet if not in a Marina or CRT stations?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiRSqwared Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Pump into 20 litre container, empty container into elsan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan de Enfield Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 And another 191 posts http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=59606 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I must admit this intrigues me. Elsan points are used almost exclusively by cassette users, and are only ever blocked by self pump out users. Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockgateman Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I have to ask the question that others may possibly be thinking: Purely as a casual matter of interest you understand: "Where do you hope to pump out the toilet if not in a Marina or CRT stations?" yes I intend to pump the waste into 5 gallon containers then empty them down the elsan at the marina my boat is moored in 'the marina has no pump-out' I have just seen the pics of some idiot pump straight into a elsan which I have no intensions of doing, other marina near-by charge between £18 to £25 a pump-out am just trying to invest and save money on pump-outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 yes I intend to pump the waste into 5 gallon containers then empty them down the elsan at the marina my boat is moored in 'the marina has no pump-out' I have just seen the pics of some idiot pump straight into a elsan which I have no intensions of doing, other marina near-by charge between £18 to £25 a pump-out am just trying to invest and save money on pump-outs Some Elsan disposal points are quite capable of excepting a pump out, so he may not be such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John V Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) screw your pump onto a bit of ply large enough to stand on, make up a new cranked lever for the pump so you can use it standing upright that way you can see and control what you are doing Edited May 18, 2014 by John V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Some Elsan disposal points are quite capable of excepting a pump out, so he may not be such an idiot. Which ones? Do they have a sign that says... 'This Elsan accepts the huge quantity of poo that a Self pump out can deposit' Isn't it best to assume none can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Which ones? Do they have a sign that says... 'This Elsan accepts the huge quantity of poo that a Self pump out can deposit' Isn't it best to assume none can? No comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Which ones? Do they have a sign that says... 'This Elsan accepts the huge quantity of poo that a Self pump out can deposit' Isn't it best to assume none can? They have a sign which says "Suitable for self pumpout". Occasionally you see a sign saying "Not suitable for self pumpout". It would be very useful if every Elsan point had one or the other sign fitted. Instead, BW/CRT seem to think it more important to erect ridiculous signs saying "Welcome to xxxx sanitary station". George ex nb Alton retired Edited May 18, 2014 by furnessvale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 They have a sign which says "Suitable for self pumpout". Occasionally you see a sign saying "Not suitable for self pumpout". It would be very useful if every Elsan point had one or the other sign fitted. George ex nb Alton retired Never seen one saying suitable, but seen a good few that say not suitable. Where abouts are the suitable ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Never seen one saying suitable, but seen a good few that say not suitable. Where abouts are the suitable ones? Off hand I couldn't really name them but I have seen them. Of course one could say that any NOT deemed unsuitable are by default suitable. CRT can solve the problem by erecting a notice at every sanitary station which is actually useful. I think, but I may be mistaken, that I have seen an "unsuitable" notice at a location where there is a self service pay machine. As the normal reason given for banning self pumpout is the lack of a mains sewer connection, it would be interesting to know what the reason is for the ban, other than maximising revenue of course. George ex nb Alton retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Off hand I couldn't really name them but I have seen them. Of course one could say that any NOT deemed unsuitable are by default suitable. CRT can solve the problem by erecting a notice at every sanitary station which is actually useful. I think, but I may be mistaken, that I have seen an "unsuitable" notice at a location where there is a self service pay machine. As the normal reason given for banning self pumpout is the lack of a mains sewer connection, it would be interesting to know what the reason is for the ban, other than maximising revenue of course. George ex nb Alton retired Or people could just pump out using a paid facility........ But some people would rather inflict their poo tank contents on others....for free of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John V Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Or people could just pump out using a paid facility........ But some people would rather inflict their poo tank contents on others....for free of course... There are one or two places, rare I must admit , where the only option is to use a self pump out into a sewer/elsan point with the owners permission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) There are one or two places, rare I must admit , where the only option is to use a self pump out into a sewer/elsan point with the owners permissionWhere.... Anyway same thing in my book unless a way of contacting the owner is included... Edited May 18, 2014 by The Dog House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 But some people would rather inflict their poo tank contents on others....for free of course... And this is different to careless cassette users because... Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John V Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Where.... Anyway same thing in my book unless a way of contacting the owner is included... you are now being argumentative for the sake of it and rudely so. ...I have been in several small yards that do not have pumpout facilities. One had road access to near the boat and in that yard I had a tanker come and empty the tank for me(approx 160 gallons). in the other two yards I had to pump out myself one into an elsan point and the other into a manhole both occasions with the yard owners full knowledge and permission.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 .... in the other two yards I had to pump out myself one into an elsan point and the other into a manhole both occasions with the yard owners full knowledge and permission.. Not with a 2" pipe hopefully. or Why - was the tank full ? Sorry just couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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