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BlueStringPudding Veteran II

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Can anyone recommend a supplier of refurbished Eberspacher Hydronic D4 heaters? That many mechanics have looked at mine and said it would cost more to replace the bit that's wrong (the brain!) than it would to replace it with a refurbished one. However I can't find a supplier of refurbs. Any suggestions?

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Can anyone recommend a supplier of refurbished Eberspacher Hydronic D4 heaters? That many mechanics have looked at mine and said it would cost more to replace the bit that's wrong (the brain!) than it would to replace it with a refurbished one. However I can't find a supplier of refurbs. Any suggestions?

 

Hi, can't help with a refurb unit, there is a replacement brain here New ECU's cost about £240

Cheers A

BlueStringPudding Veteran II

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Not having much luck with the refurbished Eberspacher Hydronic search. Any more ideas where i can find one?

 

Also there are one or two of the D5 units for sale second hand. My current unit is a D4. If I replace it with a D5 and keep all the electics and wiring etc from the D4, just do a straight swap for the heater itself, am I going to blow up or something equally unpleasant? Would it work or would the higher power rating b*gger everything up? (I have 4 radiators and teh calorifier running from the Eber)

 

Just wondering what my options are.

BlueStringPudding Veteran II

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Thanks, Smelly. It's a very different shape to my one so may need a new bracket but that's not the end of the world.

 

But going back to my last question, if I was to buy this (which is a D5) to replace mine (which is a D4) - is the different power outputs / different units going to be a problem, because all the electrics and the number of radiators (4) is going to remain the same?

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Thanks, Smelly. It's a very different shape to my one so may need a new bracket but that's not the end of the world.

 

But going back to my last question, if I was to buy this (which is a D5) to replace mine (which is a D4) - is the different power outputs / different units going to be a problem, because all the electrics and the number of radiators (4) is going to remain the same?

 

 

 

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I'm sure you would have to chop of the plug and figure out the wires.

There is a large positive and negative feed and two smaller switch wires to the controller, I'm sure I would work it out.

The heat output from it and connections to it would be pretty much the same.

I am even thinking about it to replace my D4 but I already have a spare D4 that I exchange when one needs de-coking.

 

Alex

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That's comforting, thanks. I was assuming there'd be a significant power difference that might scupper the electrics. Perhaps I'll invest 200 squidly diddlies in a D5 after all.

 

Bugger -------------------but that's made my mind up as wellcheers.gif

 

Alex

blackrose Veteran II

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Thanks guys. I've looked at both those websites but can't see anything about them selling refurbished second hand units. I'll give them a call after the weekend

 

Have a look at this list:

 

http://www.eberspacher.com/dealers/heating-dealers.html

 

These people were recommended to me but unfortunately my hydronic 10 wasn't economically repairable so I left it with them (to be honest I think eberspachers, webastos and mikunis are all crap anyway!)

 

They might have some reburbished units.

 

http://www.pfjones.co.uk/eberspacher-heaters-eberspacher-parts.html

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Have a look at this list:

 

http://www.eberspach...ng-dealers.html

 

These people were recommended to me but unfortunately my hydronic 10 wasn't economically repairable so I left it with them (to be honest I think eberspachers, webastos and mikunis are all crap anyway!)

 

They might have some reburbished units.

 

http://www.pfjones.c...cher-parts.html

 

 

 

 

I really don't understand this bad reputation Eberspacher seem to have. For 6 years mine has been very reliable and it was second hand when I bought it!

I suspect some of these 'repair specialists' cant be bothered to repair them, they much prefer to sell a new one.

I have just striped it for a de-coke after 2 years and it really didn't need it.

There is a video on You Tube about Eberspacher repair and a description on repairing Webastos on this forum - if you need any help

Odd thing go wrong, like the inlet fan seized recently, but Its easy to dismantle and I simply oiled the bearings - now runs like a new 'un.

 

Alex

BlueStringPudding Veteran II

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Thanks all. Mine is technically a write-off. Hence looking for a second-hand replacement unit. I shall continue to peruse according to your advice. Thanks all.

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smileypete Veteran II

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Can anyone recommend a supplier of refurbished Eberspacher Hydronic D4 heaters? That many mechanics have looked at mine and said it would cost more to replace the bit that's wrong (the brain!) than it would to replace it with a refurbished one. However I can't find a supplier of refurbs. Any suggestions?

If a brain transplant is expensive, maybe send the brain to a specialist for a second opinion? :D

 

cheers,

Pete.

blackrose Veteran II

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I really don't understand this bad reputation Eberspacher seem to have. For 6 years mine has been very reliable and it was second hand when I bought it!

I suspect some of these 'repair specialists' cant be bothered to repair them, they much prefer to sell a new one.

I have just striped it for a de-coke after 2 years and it really didn't need it.

There is a video on You Tube about Eberspacher repair and a description on repairing Webastos on this forum - if you need any help

Odd thing go wrong, like the inlet fan seized recently, but Its easy to dismantle and I simply oiled the bearings - now runs like a new 'un.

 

Alex

 

Some of the bad rep was due to bad installations - in my case a DW10 was installed when it really should have been a DW5 which wouldn't have coked up so quickly. However, one forum member Roger Gunkel, documented the problems he had with eberspachers in some detail. His DW10 was pulled out and replaced under warranty with a DW5 but after a short time it still suffered from the same problem. In the end he removed that one too. He did a lot of research into the issues and I think the bottom line seemed to be that eberspachers just don't like red diesel of varying quality. I'm sure his thread is somewhere in the archives.

nb Innisfree Veteran II

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Some of the bad rep was due to bad installations - in my case a DW10 was installed when it really should have been a DW5 which wouldn't have coked up so quickly. However, one forum member Roger Gunkel, documented the problems he had with eberspachers in some detail. His DW10 was pulled out and replaced under warranty with a DW5 but after a short time it still suffered from the same problem. In the end he removed that one too. He did a lot of research into the issues and I think the bottom line seemed to be that eberspachers just don't like red diesel of varying quality. I'm sure his thread is somewhere in the archives.

 

That's my conclusion as well, our Mikuni is trouble free now we have ULSD.

 

Eberspacher seem to be ok in road vehicles but not in boats and really the only difference seems to be fuel quality particularly the absence of sulphur in DERV.

 

Mikuni advertise as being suitable for red diesel but my experience is different, they say red diesel, not gas oil, which is what boaters have had to use in the past. Besides I can't see how a Mikuni can run on red when Eberspacher can't, after all the combustion process works on the same principle.

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I found and excellent guy on Ebay some years back. He had stacks of parts and knowledge....and also had alternative parts he had sourced.

 

He got me a brand new D5W fan motor for £40 and a sand blasted body at the same price.

Thanks to my new phone...I have lost his number....but if you go on Ebay.. you could try and contact him. His Ebay handle is 4x4Andy

 

bob

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