Can You Identify A Boat Declared As Having No Home Mooring From it's BW Licence.

[canaldrifter]

I think cognito is a nice name for a boat....

 

Tone

[Ange]

Just received our brand new licence, a rather fetching bright red colour this year! Our number is BW-065-007 which seems to fit the norm for licence holders without a permanent mooring.

[alan_fincher]

Just received our brand new licence, a rather fetching bright red colour this year! Our number is BW-065-007 which seems to fit the norm for licence holders without a permanent mooring.

On the mounting "evidence" I think all I'm now prepared to say is....

 

If the licence bears a "BW-xxx-007" code, then the likelihood is that it's owners have declared themselves as not having a home mooring.

 

BUT

 

The reverse does not always seem to be true, perhaps because of laxness in the procedures when a boat first moves into that situation, when it has previously had a home mooring.

 

Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'm inclined to think it is reasonably safe to assume "BW-xxx-007" means no home mooring declared, (and that BW-007-xxx means something else!!), but not that this is a way of identifying every boat with a CC declaration.

 

That said, it does seem to have been pretty reliable for 21 boats out of 21, but perhaps I just got "lucky"!

[sueb]

Just received our brand new licence, a rather fetching bright red colour this year! Our number is BW-065-007 which seems to fit the norm for licence holders without a permanent mooring.

Ours is blue

Sue

[blackrose]

But let's be quite honest - one gives out far more information about oneself moving about with a mobile phone, using a credit card and driving past countless cameras that can automatically recognise number-plates, than one is likely to do by leaving a BW licence disk displayed in our boat window.

 

Yes, that's true, but I thought we were talking about boats?

 

I was merely pointing out that the extension of the surveillance society onto our waterways is probably something that isn't very popular. Yet despite this through focusing on who's mooring where and for how long, I think many of those who would normally oppose such measures may inadvertently be participating in their introduction.

Edited February 9, 2011 by blackrose

[mayalld]

Joanie M has always beeb declared as being a CCer amd our licence number is CE-001-019-01

 

Interesting!

 

CE is the code for Clarence Dock.

[RLWP]

I think cognito is a nice name for a boat....

 

Tone

 

Ahh, is this your coat?

 

Richard

[mayalld]

 

As a slight aside - Does anyone know what a GG-xxx-xxx code might mean ? Would I be suspicious in thinking that "GG" represents somewhere where moorings are cheap, and it is easy to obtain a "paper" mooring ?

 

Grand Union Canal, Slough Arm.

[alan_fincher]

Grand Union Canal, Slough Arm.

You know that for definite, Dave ?

 

I'd need to check again, but I think it wculd kill the idea of the next number being the number of kilometres the mooring is along it.

 

Maybe wrong on that, though.....

[mayalld]

You know that for definite, Dave ?

 

I'd need to check again, but I think it wculd kill the idea of the next number being the number of kilometres the mooring is along it.

 

Maybe wrong on that, though.....

 

Absolute 100% certain!

 

GG-001-004 Aqueduct 1, River Frays

GG-001-006 Bridge 1, Trout Lane Footbridge

GG-001-007 Aqueduct 2

GG-001-010 Aqueduct 3, River Colne

GG-001-015-L Embankment 1

GG-002-001 Aqueduct 4, Colne Brooke

GG-002-002 Court Lane Road Weir 1

GG-002-003 Bridge 2, Reeds Bridge

GG-002-008-L Cutting 1, Thorney Lane Cutting

GG-002-009-R Cutting 2, The Ridgeway Cutting

GG-003-001 Bridge 4, Meads Bridge

GG-003-005-L Cutting 5, West Concrete Works Cutting

GG-004-003 Bridge 6, Hollow Hill

GG-004-007-R Cutting 6, Parsonage Farm Cutting

GG-004-009-R Embankment 4

GG-005-001 Aqueduct 5

GG-006-001 Bridge 8, Trenches Footbridge

GG-006-003 Bridge 9, St Marys Road

GG-006-004 Bridge 10, Middlegreen Road

[magpie patrick]

You know that for definite, Dave ?

 

I'd need to check again, but I think it wculd kill the idea of the next number being the number of kilometres the mooring is along it.

 

Maybe wrong on that, though.....

 

I don't know where Dave gets his info, but "Saul Junction" has over 300 boats within 200 metres of it, so I'd forget that one

[mayalld]

I don't know where Dave gets his info, but "Saul Junction" has over 300 boats within 200 metres of it, so I'd forget that one

 

SJ-001-018 Bridge 3: Adjacent To Disused Lock

SJ-007-009 Bonds Mill Bridge

SJ-009-007 Ryeford Bridge

 

The numbers here are actually BW "functional location codes"

[magpie patrick]

SJ-001-018 Bridge 3: Adjacent To Disused Lock

SJ-007-009 Bonds Mill Bridge

SJ-009-007 Ryeford Bridge

 

The numbers here are actually BW "functional location codes"

 

If anyone is moored at the second two, they should appeal....

 

It's not owned by BW, and isn't connected to the system

 

edited to add, and isn't currently navigable

Edited February 9, 2011 by magpie patrick

[david and julie]

Ours is blue

Sue

 

Ours is a shade of purple.

[mayalld]

If anyone is moored at the second two, they should appeal....

 

It's not owned by BW, and isn't connected to the system

 

edited to add, and isn't currently navigable

 

But apparently BW actually own the bridges, and have them on their asset register.

[magpie patrick]

But apparently BW actually own the bridges, and have them on their asset register.

 

No they don't (although they leased them briefly), Dave, please remember exactly what my role is with the Stroudwater Canal

 

I'll be on the phone to BW in the morning, but I won't name my source

[mayalld]

No they don't (although they leased them briefly), Dave, please remember exactly what my role is with the Stroudwater Canal

 

I'll be on the phone to BW in the morning, but I won't name my source

 

The list that I am working from is dated December 2008

[magpie patrick]

The list that I am working from is dated December 2008

 

Thank you, without files to hand that doesn't necessarily make it any better, I'll check

 

But it does show that mooring code is related to asset code...

[mayalld]

Thank you, without files to hand that doesn't necessarily make it any better, I'll check

 

But it does show that mooring code is related to asset code...

 

Yup.

 

These are "Functional Location Codes", and include some locations that are stated as not BW owned

 

BC-004-008 French Walls Basin Bridge

HN-001-016 Bates Tunnel

MO-052-010-L Embankment 14, Newhouse

OX-010-002 Bridge 26, Grimes Bridge

RD-027-001 Brown Bank Bridge see long text

SH-003-011 Ickles Overflow Weir

SW-040-013 Double Pennant Basin Bridge

[Alan de Enfield]

Here are the full lists of BW "Principal Assets" by functional location.

(Bridges, locks, embankments etc etc)

 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmenvfru/345/7031212.htm

 

Maybe there is no 'secret' to the coding on our licence - maybe we just become a 1 year BW asset ?

 

Edit - apologies - its not a full list, just an arrears list

Edited February 9, 2011 by Alan de Enfield

[debbifiggy]

 

As a slight aside - Does anyone know what a GG-xxx-xxx code might mean ? Would I be suspicious in thinking that "GG" represents somewhere where moorings are cheap, and it is easy to obtain a "paper" mooring ?

 

 

Slough Arm. Only moorings there are Packet Boat Marina (entrance at the beginning of the Slough Arm) and Highline iver neither of which can be called cheap in the current scheme of things.

 

 

 

Edit do keep up D, you're rather behind on this one as they've already cracked it, time for a beer and some popcorn

D

Edited February 9, 2011 by debbifiggy

[David Schweizer]

Well the code on our licence is GU-061-001 which I assume relates to the bridge at Napton Junction which is next to our on line mooring.

[mayalld]

Well the code on our licence is GU-061-001 which I assume relates to the bridge at Napton Junction which is next to our on line mooring.

GU-061-002 Bridge 17, Napton Juction

[Ange]

Ours is a shade of purple.

 

I quite like the red - rather goes with our boat colours

[mayalld]

Thank you, without files to hand that doesn't necessarily make it any better, I'll check

 

But it does show that mooring code is related to asset code...

 

The full SJ list;

 

SJ-001-004 Stroudwater Stopgates

SJ-001-005 Junction Dry Dock Outlet

SJ-001-013 Culvert 1: Stroudwater Canal

SJ-001-015 Culvert 2: Stroudwater Canal

SJ-001-016 Whitminster Feeder Culvert Sluice Qty 2

SJ-001-017 Whitminster Tilting Weir (Qty 4)

SJ-001-018 Bridge 3: Adjacent To Disused Lock

SJ-001-022 Whit`ster Weir feeder cul. bypass sluice

SJ-001-023 Whitminster Weir Manual Sluices (Qty 3)

SJ-001-024 Whitminster Weir Feeder Culvert

SJ-003-004 Stonepitts Bridge

SJ-003-005 Lockham Waste Weir

SJ-003-006 Occupation Bridge

SJ-005-003 Meadow Mills Waste Weir

SJ-006-003 Dock Lock - Disused

SJ-006-005 Pike Lock - Disused

SJ-006-006 Dock Lock Waste Weir

SJ-006-008 Blunder Lock

SJ-006-011 Newtown Lock

SJ-007-008 Roving Bridge

SJ-007-009 Bonds Mill Bridge

SJ-008-008 Oceans Bridge

SJ-008-009 Nutshell Bridge

SJ-008-011 Upper Mills Swingbridge

SJ-009-004 Midland Railway Bridge - Cycleway

SJ-009-007 Ryeford Bridge

SJ-009-008 Ryeford Swing Footbridge

SJ-009-009 Ryeford Sluices

SJ-010-007 Ryeford Double Lock - Disused

SJ-010-008 Holly House Waste Weir

SJ-010-009 Bridge House Waste Weir

SJ-012-006 Dudbridge Lower Lock - Disused

SJ-012-007 Dudbridge Upper Lock - Disused

SJ-012-009 Gasworks Swing Bridge

SJ-012-010 Lodgemore Swing Bridge

SJ-012-011 Wallbridge Lower Lock - Disused