Trad or Cruiser stern?

[nb Innisfree]

This is our solution, I have replaced steering wheel with a crank that I made from a piece of engine board, may look a bit odd but works a treat

Edited November 23, 2009 by nb Innisfree

[magpie patrick]

 

This not particularly good shot shows Val steering Ripple down the Severn. Ripple is a semi-trad with an odd L shaped back deck to accomodate a cross double in the rear cabin. Val is sitting to steer on a pedestal just inside the semi-trad doors. there is a similar pedestal on the other side which is my preferred steering position. I prefer steering with my lerft hand from the right hand side, which seems to be unusual

 

Point being, these seats are as comfortable as any rail. They are a tad high but my 74 year old 4 foot 9 inch tall mother can get on them so they aren't that bad. From my right hand perch I can even control the morse level with my foot(it's on the side of the left hand pedestal), and you are sitting forward of the tiller

 

I don't really buy the "get out of the way when you reverse argument", you can have to reverse at a moments notice and don't always have the luxury of saying "please do stand up and move my love" before doing so.

Edited November 23, 2009 by magpie patrick

[Guest]

Ripple is a semi-trad with an odd L shaped back deck to accomodate a cross double in the rear cabin.

 

Just to go for a sec. I've seen that layout on some of the Valley Cruiser hire boats, its a very neat solution to having a large cross bed that can stay in place but doesn't restrict access through the boat - nice one.

[magpie patrick]

Just to go for a sec. I've seen that layout on some of the Valley Cruiser hire boats, its a very neat solution to having a large cross bed that can stay in place but doesn't restrict access through the boat - nice one.

It's actually a surprisingly good shape for the deck as well, your crew lean on the cabin looking sideways, much more sociable.

[Dalesman]

Socialising aside, from the Steerer's point of view the trad (and semi-trad) sterns tend to have under-the-armpit height tillers whereas cruiser sterns tend to have hip-height tiller arms. As I mentioned earlier its worth trying both styles to see how you get on with them. For me it's not an issue but I gather some people prefer one or the other. I guess, too, that the lower tiller of the cruiser sterm is probably more family friendly (for shorter Steerers) !

 

(..... I've got a lovely spacious engine room )

Our tiller is at hip height and the morse control is at the right height for ease of use

 

Edited November 23, 2009 by Dalesman

[billS]

We have a modern trad, but with an extra large hatch which allows three to socialise at the back - albeit standing up, and clear of the tiller. This ticks the boxes for me. Shelter(ish), and a nice warm shed! The only downside is that the narrow roof edges are pretty uncomfortable to sit on.

[steelaway]

My stern is a bit unusual though. I've not seen that many like it. Best of all worlds imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Simliar ????

 

 

Alex

[nb Innisfree]

My stern is a bit unusual though. I've not seen that many like it. Best of all worlds imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Simliar ????

 

 

Alex

 

Same only different

[Hairy-Neil]

Ripple is a semi-trad with an odd L shaped back deck to accomodate a cross double in the rear cabin.

 

surely that's a 3/4 trad.....

[Maffi]

surely that's a 3/4 trad.....

 

It cant possibly be a 3/4 trad. It's big enough to play tennis on. It is simply a cruiser with storage boxes. And like most cruisers badly located controls.

 

Come to Thrupp and watch the antics of Cruiser stern boaters trying to get round a sharp left hand bend.

Edited November 24, 2009 by Maffi

[deletedaccount]

Simliar ????

 

 

Alex

 

Nice!

Edited November 24, 2009 by deletedaccount

[magpie patrick]

It cant possibly be a 3/4 trad. It's big enough to play tennis on. It is simply a cruiser with storage boxes. And like most cruisers badly located controls.

 

Come to Thrupp and watch the antics of Cruiser stern boaters trying to get round a sharp left hand bend.

 

Oi, You dissin' my boat!

[GSer]

Come to Thrupp and watch the antics of Cruiser stern boaters trying to get round a sharp left hand bend.

 

 

It's the sharp righthand one that got me

[alan_fincher]

Come to Thrupp and watch the antics of Cruiser stern boaters trying to get round a sharp left hand bend.

Why is it harder for cruiser sterned boats to make the bends ?

[LoneWolf]

Why is it harder for cruiser sterned boats to make the bends ?

 

distance between hard over tiller & gear/throttle stick?

[magpie patrick]

distance between hard over tiller & gear/throttle stick?

 

possibly, particularly if the tight bend requires the tiller on the opposite side of the boat to the throttle.

 

Mind, if it's a hire boat, it would probably do the manoeuvre best at dead slow (that's the best way to manoeuvre Ripple in tight situations, none of this gung-ho uber-revving), but the crew may not know that.

[g-man]

And like most cruisers badly located controls.

 

Come to Thrupp and watch the antics of Cruiser stern boaters trying to get round a sharp left hand bend.

 

Pfft! That's a new one on me as I've never experienced such "problems" reaching the controls, but maybe those cruisers sterns you see struggling contain a higher than average percentage of hire boats?

[Tiny]

Cruiser stern with pram hood that can be closed off for storage. Gives room for all the bulk out of the cabin and keeps it dry.

[Doorman]

There is always the Scottish solution, a compromise called the Truiser stern, invented by Donald Mc Donald who built several of them and then managed to lose them all. People often stopped him on the towpath to ask. "Donald where's yer Truisers?"

 

 

[JLees]

We have a modern trad, but with an extra large hatch which allows three to socialise at the back - albeit standing up, and clear of the tiller. This ticks the boxes for me. Shelter(ish), and a nice warm shed! The only downside is that the narrow roof edges are pretty uncomfortable to sit on.

BillS - Just who I've been looking for! Could I pick your brains? I'm thinking of ordering a trad stern from LMBS with extra large hatch, only thing that makes me wonder is, if you have an extra large hatch doesn't that expose the engine compartment (not rainproof because trad) to the weather? Or if yr cruising in the rain and close the hatch then you get shoved out onto the back....thus taking away the advantage of a trad in lousy weather....or am I missing something here? Any thoughts much appreciated!