cotswoldsman Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Yesterday there was a big slick of diesel where I was moored caused by a boater filling up from his own drums. I am sure he did not intend to spill quite as much as he did (at todays prices need to get every last drop in tank) but I have noticed more and more diesel in the canal since the law on red diesel changed is it just me has anybody else noticed increases in diesel spills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliG Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 We recently did the Cheshire ring and up to Chester and commented on how much diesel film there was in many places! Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Hawk Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) When we've filled up at the marina and had a slight dribble in the cut, we have a bottle of 'no frills' washing up liquid and after a few squirts, the spilt fuel disperses....Not that we have many dribbles these days with the cost of the stuff! Anyone else bother? Edited July 26, 2009 by Night Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBMike Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 In a fit of ecology, I recently bought a pack of pads that absorb oil. BUT they don't absorb water, so in the event of a spill I can throw a couple of pads onto the spill -problem solved. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Hawk Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 In a fit of ecology, I recently bought a pack of pads that absorb oil. BUT they don't absorb water, so in the event of a spill I can throw a couple of pads onto the spill -problem solved.Mike I wonder what would be the most 'eco-friendly' option to deal with a fuel spill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 In a fit of ecology, I recently bought a pack of pads that absorb oil. BUT they don't absorb water, so in the event of a spill I can throw a couple of pads onto the spill -problem solved.Mike linky??? Sounds handy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahB Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 linky??? Sounds handy! Hm I have some of those - no idea where they came from though. I reckon a car parts place might stock them? I need to get to Parkers this week to try and source my silly 24v bulbs (non standard size, think it's from a bus!) so I'll ask there and if they do have some I'll get you some before the banter if you like? S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaandland Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Loads now being dumped in to the canal,, major dump at Harecastle south last week, and yesterday dinner at Chedd Locks,, bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ange Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Hmm I had noticed an almost constant slick on the Leeds & Liverpool recently - it sorta makes sense to link it to the new rules & people filling their own tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 We fill our tank from containers. However careful you are you still get a few dribbles run down the side of the boat and into the water. Washing up liquid disperses any spills quickly. Another thing to note is that even a tiny spill makes a huge slick on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 ... even a tiny spill makes a huge slick on the water... Just one molecule thick, if my recollection of 'A' level physics is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Putting washing up liquid on a diesel spill makes things worse (though it may conceal your transgression). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackelle123 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Putting washing up liquid on a diesel spill makes things worse (though it may conceal your transgression). Please explain how it makes it worse - I thought that a few drops of washing up liquid did the job full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBMike Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) linky??? Sounds handy! Yeah sorry here it is http://www.newpig.com/webapp/wcs/stores/se...-Pads-and-Rolls I have about 70 pads surplus to req. that I can sell for £1 each plus postage or collect from mooring near Uxbridge Boat Centre They also do a handy little sausage shaped pad that absorbs water BUT NOT diesel to put into your fuel tank for condensation. Edited July 27, 2009 by NBMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Please explain how it makes it worse - I thought that a few drops of washing up liquid did the job full stop. It certainly does the job, by reducing the surface tension and allowing it to disperse into the water, enabling it to enter the food chain, as well as introducing even more chemicals. Soaking it up removes it completely (though I have seen soak-up pads dumped in the hedgerow, too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate and James Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yeah sorry here it ishttp://www.newpig.com/webapp/wcs/stores/se...-Pads-and-Rolls I have about 70 pads surplus to req. that I can sell for £1 each plus postage or collect from mooring near Uxbridge Boat Centre They also do a handy little sausage shaped pad that absorbs water BUT NOT diesel to put into your fuel tank for condensation. Thanks, added to my favorites!... I know I'm still not on the water yet, but hey... we will be!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Detergent is said to be worse than petrol, it should not be put into the canal. Linky Link another link Sounds like the EA and BW need to do some more education for boaters about oil spills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) Detergent is said to be worse than petrol, it should not be put into the canal. Good job its diesel then I assume you have a grey water tank as well Edited July 27, 2009 by Phylis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Please explain how it makes it worse - I thought that a few drops of washing up liquid did the job full stop. As a general rule the use of dispersants was stopped years ago. All dispersants do is, as their name suggests, move the oild on to somewhere else - it doesn't get rid of it. The best way to tackle oil spills is containment and recovery and there are many ways to do this depending on the type of oil and the severity of the spill. However, diesel is quite volatile and the normal method is to allow it to evaporate naturally. Rcovery is only needed in very large spills and also of heavier oils. Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Diesel spills will keep the mozzies down. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Here is a nice link about the affects of detergents on water life: http://www.lenntech.com/aquatic/detergents.htm and a link about using non-phosphate detergents on canals: link link link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatross Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 At least with petrol spills you can flare it off with a match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 At least with petrol spills you can flare it off with a match That's the common treatment with most major oil slicks, these days..containment and incineration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Alnwick Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Our filler is on the roof and if we spill any diesel when refuelling we soak it up with cotton waste (one of my favourite products) and we burn all spent cotton waste on the stove - a handfull of cotton waste soaked in diesel will usually be enough to boil a kettle sufficiently to make a cuppa . . . A small quantity of diesel in the cut is best left well alone - eventually it will partially evaporate into the atmosphere and what remains will decompose. Adding more chemicals will only make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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