What's This?

[churchward]

Folks, I was moored next to the boat in the pics below a few weeks ago on the Ashby. It had a deck the full length of the load space. Is this a modern addition or would this be original. I guess if it is original could it be one of the tar/oil boats? Nice boat wooden hulled too.

 

By churchward, shot with NIKON D70s at 2008-10-15

 

By churchward, shot with NIKON D70s at 2008-10-15

 

By churchward, shot with NIKON D70s at 2008-10-15

[carlt]

Yes Stour is, indeed, a Thomas Clayton Tar boat.

Edited October 15, 2008 by carlt

[alan_fincher]

You have correctly guessed what it is.

 

Thomas Clayton was a carrier specialising in these liquid products, and that name goes hand in hand with this type of boat.

 

Alan

 

I reckon it needs some fake rivets to make it look truly authentic though!

[wonderdust]

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[churchward]

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Thanks for the confirmation chaps and the link. I hadn't realised that Thomas Clayton specialised in this type of cargo. I guess the wooden hull on the inside at least should be in good order!

[Liam]

Yeah usually very good order.

 

Carl's Usk is/was a Thos Clayton Motor... and as he found out the only problem with having an ex Tar boat is that it burns rather too well

[WJM]

How did they clean out the tanks when changing between cargo types?

[carlt]

How did they clean out the tanks when changing between cargo types?

They were steam cleaned. TCO tar boats are notorious for being hogged, as a result.

 

Before she was burnt, when planning her restoration, I was undecided whether to iron out the hog, or not.

[RLWP]

They were steam cleaned. TCO tar boats are notorious for being hogged, as a result.

 

Before she was burnt, when planning her restoration, I was undecided whether to iron out the hog, or not.

 

We cruised past poor Usk last weekend. Very sad.

 

Richard

[jake_crew]

Numpty question - what is hogged ?

Edited October 17, 2008 by jake_crew

[Liam]

When the boat, over it's length and usually at the stern, develops a gracious bend down... that's called "hogged".

[alan_fincher]

Mildly banana shaped, with the ends lower than the middle.

 

It seems to affect the stern ends of motor boats far more, presumably because of the weight of engine, gearbox & fuel, at a point near to where the swim means there is less buoyancy anyway.

 

Some owners of wooden boats have introduced things like a very heavy Aga in the middle, to try and reverse the process.

[down the north]

Anyone remember the old Alice that was tied at Harry Machins at market drayton ????? that had a bolinger thing in it and,,,,,,,,,, it was that hogged,,,,,,,,,,,,, some say,, you could see daylight under the middle bottom area on a good day if the pound was 'up',

all I know is that the poor old girl broke her back and was moved / broke up years ago,,, ah well,

martin

[1-Cylinder Wonder]

Thanks for the confirmation chaps and the link. I hadn't realised that Thomas Clayton specialised in this type of cargo. I guess the wooden hull on the inside at least should be in good order!

Where the tanks used to be was ok i.e. the hold/centre section. My parents had an ex TCO Butty The Erne. I remember as a child my father putting some new knees in the bow. We took the old ones out using a trowel. We were always being scolded by our parents for picking bits out of the bow and stern sides as it was completely rotten.

 

John

[carlt]

Where the tanks used to be was ok i.e. the hold/centre section. My parents had an ex TCO Butty The Erne. I remember as a child my father putting some new knees in the bow. We took the old ones out using a trowel. We were always being scolded by our parents for picking bits out of the bow and stern sides as it was completely rotten.

 

John

Apparently all the chemicals in the canal, at Oldbury, was pretty good for the hulls too.

[1-Cylinder Wonder]

Apparently all the chemicals in the canal, at Oldbury, was pretty good for the hulls too.

Of course Claytons used to sink laid up boats at Oldbury to keep the hull in good order and prevent hogging!

[NB Esk]

They were steam cleaned. TCO tar boats are notorious for being hogged, as a result.

 

Before she was burnt, when planning her restoration, I was undecided whether to iron out the hog, or not.

 

Carl, are you saying this condition is reversable? I can't imagine how one would go about this. I can only think there would be a lot of heavy weights, used over a long period.

 

Bet there's a lot more to it...