CCTV ?

[frangar]

44 minutes ago, jonathanA said:

A good few years ago the local Bobby told me that my 4 d cell maglite could be an  offensive weapon, but a torch if switched on...  so I had to switch it on before hitting any scrotes with it. 

Many years ago I was moored up outside Sainsbury's at Apsley on the GU when some idiot on the towpath opposite starting lobbing rocks at the boat...I phoned 999 and went out with a 3ft length of 4x2 in one hand and 4D maglite in the other in order to discuss it further...only to have the chap decide he wasnt going to hang around....on the way back over the footbridge I met a couple of gentlemen who couldn't have been more obvious plain clothes coppers if they tried....after a short conversation to explain I was the one that had called them I had the Magnate taken off me but they didnt mind the bit of wood....apparently the maglite was more dangerous....I did get it back after a longer chat and having proved it was definitely my boat etc....I still have the maglite on clips in the back cabin for when it might be needed.

 

[blackrose]

A good paddock and chain sounds much simpler and easier than any of the high tech methods of deterrence suggested in this thread. But like any other bit of kit it won't stop a really determined thief. 

 

It's not clear to me if the generator mentioned in the original post was locked up? Even if the mooring is behind a locked gate, expensive & easy to sell kit like generators should still be locked to something.

Edited January 13 by blackrose

[booke23]

11 hours ago, blackrose said:

A good paddock and chain sounds much simpler and easier than any of the high tech methods of deterrence suggested in this thread. But like any other bit of kit it won't stop a really determined thief.

 

In this day and age with the easy and cheap availability of cordless angle grinders, even the best chain and padlock is no deterrent at all. Especially for the career generator thieves operating on the canal network. 

[blackrose]

On 13/01/2024 at 19:03, booke23 said:

 

In this day and age with the easy and cheap availability of cordless angle grinders, even the best chain and padlock is no deterrent at all. Especially for the career generator thieves operating on the canal network. 

 

I disagree. There's no such thing as "career generator thieves". Do you really believe people can make a living stealing generators from boats on the canals? Sorry but that's just nonsense.

 

Professional burglars still focus on houses where the pickings are much richer, whereas thieves stealing from boats are opportunists and they don't walk around with cordless angle grinders. That's another contemporary urban myth perpetuated by people who don't know what they're talking about.

Edited January 14 by blackrose

[booke23]

7 hours ago, blackrose said:

 

There's no such thing as "career generator thieves". Do you really believe people can make a living stealing generators from boats on the canals? Sorry but that's just nonsense.

 

It's not my belief or idle speculation, it's fact.

 

There's a prolific guy who operates on the western K&A, steals between 6 and 8 a month and advertises his stolen goods on FB marketplace where he gets around £500 for each generator. Maybe I'm imagining that? 😂 

 

Edited January 14 by booke23

[Mad Harold]

5 hours ago, blackrose said:

 

 

Professional burglars still focus on houses where the pickings are much richer, whereas thieves stealing from boats are opportunists and they don't walk around with cordless angle grinders. That's another contemporary urban myth perpetuated by people who don't know what they're talking about.

There are some thieves that specialise on nicking outboards.

Their method to bypass outboard locks is to simply cut the outboard out of the transom with a battery angle grinder.

On 10/01/2024 at 21:43, frangar said:

C & H handspike….needed for boating….also tell plod you think the assailants had weapons…..

Not enough room to swing it.

Some good pokes in the face with a handy  windlass might be a better way to persuade someone they were not welcome.

[robtheplod]

On 12/01/2024 at 11:43, booke23 said:

 

 

But the OP wanted something simple that can store to a memory card. Blink cameras need wifi (and potentially a subscription), not ideal on a mooring with limited power options. 

True, but the Blink just takes 12v (or really 5v USB).... no point storing on memory card if the thief takes the camera, as often occurs?

[GreenHeaven]

I bought one fro0m amazon. A chinese brand. To use it you have to register on their website w personal info and be connected to the internet at all times. They advertised software for it to use w a pc. When I emiald them, they demanded proof of purchase. Never heard back

[booke23]

8 hours ago, robtheplod said:

True, but the Blink just takes 12v (or really 5v USB).... no point storing on memory card if the thief takes the camera, as often occurs?

 

In an ideal world a WIFI connected camera would be perfect. I imagine the blink has quite modest power requirements, but when you add in the power requirements of the WIFI it could get problematic. Of course everyone's setup is different. But my Huawei B535 4g wifi router draws 1 amp when it's running which in the middle of winter during cloudy weather, my solar just can't keep up with. When you factor in the blink subscription fee along with the 4g sim fee you can see why a covert wildlife camera might be an attractive choice. 

[waterworks]

The people who broke into my mooring are Gypsy / Travellers , the police have their vehicle linked to theft of a caravan on the same night. 

[tree monkey]

I don't know how useful these would be on a mooring without mains power but I chose them for bricks and mortar install due to lack of subscription requirement, so far they have worked well with a decent image 

 

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[Jess--]

On 10/01/2024 at 18:30, Jerra said:

An interesting point.  We had CCtv in the shops and we had an incident.  I felt the images were distinctly ropey but the cop said "oh you have good images, that's so and so (naming the culprits and telling us their nationality).

 

That left me wondering what evidential quality looks like, however, that was 20 years ago so standards have improved in image quality so what is acceptable probably has as well.

CCTV tends to fall into one of three categories

 

1. Observation : lowest quality / widest viewing angle, you can see what is happening but will not be able to see who is doing it (a human takes up 5% or less of the picture) - example a camera overlooking a supermarket car park

 

2. Recognition : You will be able to recognise people you know or that have distinctive features or follow a person from camera to camera,  (a human will take up 5-15% of the picture - example a camera overlooking an aisle inside a supermarket

 

3. Identification : a person in the picture can be easily identified when compared to a photograph, the face is clear and usually facing the camera - example the camera on the doors to a supermarket