The Shroppie Fly

[Hastings]

The stairs up to the apartment are in one corner of the lounge area.  They led originally to a restaurant area upstairs, close 20 or 30 years ago.

[Tonka]

4 minutes ago, haggis said:

No there are stairs at the side (against a wall to your left)  of the first room you go into from the front door and I think they go up to living accommodation.

But it is in a room open to the public 

[haggis]

Just now, Tonka said:

But it is in a room open to the public 

does that make a difference to what they pay?

[Hastings]

On 04/01/2024 at 16:17, Cheshire cat said:

The owner of the Audlem chippy died suddenly last summer. No idea what the current situation is.

 

The licencees of the Combermere moved on to face new challenges. Their replacements would have been facing a massive task to match their predecessors and satisfy the pub group owners. According to the locals the licencees were lacking in interpersonal skills and the plub closed again fairly quickly. The current licencees have only been going since November 2023.

 

Interestingly the pub is owned by the Nomad pub company (based in Torquay) and their accounts are overdue at HMRC.

Paul, the brother of the previous owner (George) who died getting on two years ago, took over the Village Chippy.  Still excellent, though if you go, note that cards are not accepted - cash only.  (Surely, they must be missing out on sales?)

[Tonka]

1 minute ago, haggis said:

does that make a difference to what they pay?

No but the stairs are normally in the private area of the pub so less noise ends up going up to the living area. Which could explain why the landlord is living on a boat

[jam]

On 04/01/2024 at 16:17, Cheshire cat said:

The licencees of the Combermere moved on to face new challenges. Their replacements would have been facing a massive task to match their predecessors and satisfy the pub group owners. According to the locals the licencees were lacking in interpersonal skills and the plub closed again fairly quickly. The current licencees have only been going since November 2023.

 

Interestingly the pub is owned by the Nomad pub company (based in Torquay) and their accounts are overdue at HMRC.

A little bit of misinformation there. The pub is actually owned by the Stonegate Pub Group who are the largest pub group in the UK with around 4,500 pubs. The current (new) leaseholder is the Nomad Wine Company whose registered office is in Stoke on Trent. They also run a hospitality business and also own No.63 Cafe & Wine Bar alongside the canal in Market Drayton.

29 minutes ago, Tonka said:

No but the stairs are normally in the private area of the pub so less noise ends up going up to the living area. Which could explain why the landlord is living on a boat

Don't forget the pub has a manager as well and I would presume he would live in.

[ditchcrawler]

4 hours ago, Creaking Gate said:

Priorities right; paying no council tax you mean.... Given its being run so well they should probably pay their way.

 

I don't think the pub is on a boat.

[Hastings]

4 hours ago, jam said:

A little bit of misinformation there. The pub is actually owned by the Stonegate Pub Group who are the largest pub group in the UK with around 4,500 pubs. The current (new) leaseholder is the Nomad Wine Company whose registered office is in Stoke on Trent. They also run a hospitality business and also own No.63 Cafe & Wine Bar alongside the canal in Market Drayton.

Don't forget the pub has a manager as well and I would presume he would live in.

He does live in the flat.

[Cheshire cat]

4 hours ago, jam said:

A little bit of misinformation there. The pub is actually owned by the Stonegate Pub Group who are the largest pub group in the UK with around 4,500 pubs. The current (new) leaseholder is the Nomad Wine Company whose registered office is in Stoke on Trent. They also run a hospitality business and also own No.63 Cafe & Wine Bar alongside the canal in Market Drayton.

 

Thanks for the correction. Good that it isn't the Nomad (Torquay) but bad that it's Stonegate 🙄 

[agg221]

9 hours ago, Hastings said:

Paul, the brother of the previous owner (George) who died getting on two years ago, took over the Village Chippy.  Still excellent, though if you go, note that cards are not accepted - cash only.  (Surely, they must be missing out on sales?)

There is a cash machine at the Co-op so it shouldn't be too much of a problem for sales. The excellent Indian (and everything else!) take-away also prefers cash so it is handy for that too.

 

Alec

[Tonka]

18 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said:

If I lived in a Rolls Royce car, what band would it be in?

 

www  livingonaboat.co.uk

 

Quote.

Any tax liability occurs not with regard to the boat itself, but the mooring the vessel occupies. If planning permission for permanent residential use has been secured on a mooring then it can be levied for council tax, but who actually pays the tax depends on whether you have exclusive occupancy of the mooring or not. If the mooring is yours alone then by rights you should be footing the bill. Many live-aboards mistakenly believe – or want to believe – that by living on a boat they must be tax exempt and avoid raising the issue with their local council. Whether they are eventually taken to task for their oversight depends on the conscientiousness of their local authority, which can vary significantly in this matter.

 

Given that the tax liability relates to the mooring, the council tax you pay is levied on the value of the mooring rather than that of the boat. Most residential boat moorings are consequently in council tax band A, the lowest band. There are some instances in which a permanent boat mooring is liable for council tax levied on the value of the mooring together with the value of the boat, but never exclusively on the value of the boat. These usually apply to purpose-built houseboats or any boats that are moored with a “sufficient degree of permanence as to be enjoyed with the mooring”.

 

End quote.

 

 

I think you may be incorrect

 

 

 

 

Yes I was wrong as I stated boat. But even that article states most moorings are in band A, which implies some are not

A plot of land in London is going to be of far higher value to a plot of land in Audlem 

[Hastings]

9 hours ago, agg221 said:

There is a cash machine at the Co-op so it shouldn't be too much of a problem for sales. The excellent Indian (and everything else!) take-away also prefers cash so it is handy for that too.

 

Alec

But the "everything else" takeaway does take cards.  And, as a shop owner in Audlem, I know that around 90% of our sales value now comes from cards.