Arthur Marshall Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Goliath said: it won’t spoil my day But it’s ok you having an opinion on here about license fees but it’s another thing taking part regards the consultation. you are not a license holder and should not be invited for feedback and as a license holder I will happily question CRT why they feel the need to open up feedback to non license payers for opinions 👍 It won't make any difference, the decision as to what to do has almost certainly already been made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, IanD said: But as I told CART I *will* be a license holder shortly, certainly before any result of the consultation takes effect. and possibly for longer after that than you... 😉 ? strange thing to say… why longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Goliath said: ? strange thing to say… why longer? I may be making an invalid assumption about your age vs. mine... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said: It won't make any difference, the decision as to what to do has almost certainly already been made. it’s the principle though ain’t it, why ask any Tom, Dick or Harry their views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Goliath said: it’s the principle though ain’t it, why ask any Tom, Dick or Harry their views? I agree 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, IanD said: I may be making an invalid assumption about your age vs. mine... 😉 you know what they say about assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Goliath said: you know what they say about assumptions. I do indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, IanD said: I agree 🙂 Then no need to feedback, now you know you’re view is not relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Goliath said: Then no need to feedback, now you know you’re view is not relevant It's as relevant as yours. Possibly more so, since I seem to care about the future of the canals and you seem resigned to them going down the toilet. Or maybe that's an unfair assumption and I'm confusing you with somebody else with a similar attitude... P.S. Your... 😉 Edited February 16, 2023 by IanD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I tell you what, shall we skip the dancing and go straight to the end where you call me names such as shit stirrer or asshole and then flounce off. Id be happy with that. 😉 😉 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Goliath said: I tell you what, shall we skip the dancing and go straight to the end where you call me names such as shit stirrer or asshole and then flounce off. Id be happy with that. 😉 😉 😉 If the cap fits... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Goliath said: I tell you what, shall we skip the dancing and go straight to the end where you call me names such as shit stirrer or asshole and then flounce off. Id be happy with that. 😉 😉 😉 He just cant help himself can he? Yet when others do this he gets his underwear in a right knot. But when you point this out he really sulks and blocks you. Oh I also see hes resorted to grammar checking now. What a sad little man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, M_JG said: He just cant help himself can he? Yet when others do this he gets his underwear in a right knot. But when you point this out he really sulks and blocks you. Oh I also see hes resorted to grammar checking now. What a sad little man. Ha ha I didn’t realise he’d grammar checked. I’d changed what I was gonna say see.. I was gonna “say you’re a ### and your view…” but thought better of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Goliath said: Ha ha I didn’t realise he’d grammar checked. I’d changed what I was gonna say see.. I was gonna “say you’re a ### and your view…” but thought better of it. If he just stuck to the technical stuff without the constant need to grind people down untill he gets the very last word. He must be a hoot to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, M_JG said: If he just stuck to the technical stuff without the constant need to grind people down untill he gets the very last word. He must be a hoot to work with. Your joking? He spends all day on here like the rest of us, must be retired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, rusty69 said: Your joking? He spends all day on here like the rest of us, must be retired. Hes gunna nail that grammar cockup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said: It won't make any difference, the decision as to what to do has almost certainly already been made. In which case, why bother with a consultation? All that does for CART is risk causing more bad feelings if the consultation recommends one thing and they do the pre-decided opposite... I suspect there's a fairly big average license fee increase in the offing -- and that *is* already decided -- and they're now asking boaters which type of pain they'd like to suffer, so they can say "we gave you a choice and you chose this"... 😞 2 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Your joking? He spends all day on here like the rest of us, must be retired. Not yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ray T said: Faced with the growing pressures of maintaining ageing waterways and the increased threat of climate change, "Ageing waterways", yes agreed. "threat of climate change" they can kiss my hairy white ass. So called 'climate change' is just 'woke' brainwashing by the World Ecoonomic Forum, Klaus Schwab (I vill rule ze Vorld) and his elite far right 'jackbooted cronies' and CRT are just jumping on the bandwagon. Consultation is code for, it's a done deal whether you like it or not, and we want a pay rise. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. The boy stood on the burning deck Smoke billowing through the air ‘I can’t stand it any more!’ he cried, And sat down on a chair Edited February 16, 2023 by Smiles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Smiles said: Consultation is code for, it's a done deal whether you like it or not, and we want a pay rise. Think we all agree on that 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 CCers (I hate that term) should get a discount. Everyone knows if locks aren’t used they go bad, dry out and fail. Locks collect debris and need flushing out. We’re doing the system a favour. 👍 Caring for it by using it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Goliath said: CCers (I hate that term) should get a discount. Everyone knows if locks aren’t used they go bad, dry out and fail. Locks collect debris and need flushing out. We’re doing the system a favour. 👍 Caring for it by using it. Use it or lose it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Goliath said: Think we all agree on that 👍 No, no,no, in the short time I've been on this forum, I have learnt one thing, Agreement is not an option. Agreed? 😱😂👍🏻 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, wandering snail said: Yes, as could anyone throughout the world. By the way, not sure how responders can answer questions about continuous cruiser licences when there is no such licence. Haven't seen the rest of the survey yet but do hope it is less subjective and much more accurate than the one question I have seen. If you read the FAQ relating to the consultation, that addresses this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I don't think any Tom, Dick or Harry should have a say but all relevant stakeholders should. Even hirers if they are likely to be impacted by decisions made around licensing have a valid reasoon to be allowed to provide input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, john6767 said: If you read the FAQ relating to the consultation, that addresses this point. The FAQs also pretty much confirm what's been said on this thread -- there is going to be a significant overall increase, they're considering going to an area-based (width*length) license to reflect the "utility that each boat receives", they're considering a surcharge for CCers because "they cost more to support". All these are controversial and there are strong feelings for and against them; I suspect CART don't care what the exact outcome is so long as they raise more money, the consultation is about how to spread the increase around. So it's likely that whatever the majority of people who respond vote for will get implemented, even though a minority will undoubtedly be unhappy with the result whatever happens, and the arguments about what is "fair" will continue until the canals run dry. Sounds horribly familiar... 😞 Edited February 16, 2023 by IanD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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