Engine serial plate?

[Baldy1976 3]

Hi everyone

 

I have a BMC Engine in my narrowboat , a receipt from years ago says it's a 2.4 commander , the brochure from GHBS says it's a 2.2 BMC.

 

We have owned the boat for a year now and I have just recently cleaned the whole engine bay ready for painting.........I found a metal plate with a serial number on it ......it was inside of one of the engine support girders on the floor right in the corner 

 

Is this the engine serial number plate please? 

 

Cheers

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Baldy1976

[Baldy1976 3]

Here is a picture of the BMC 

[MartynG 418]

8G used to refer to reconditioned engines or could be  part number?

 

Look for any plate indicating Newage Marine (later Tempest Diesels) in Stamford Lincolnshire. 

According to the interweb - ''Commander'' indicates  a 2.4(2.5?)            2.2 would be ''Commodore''

 

[Tracy D'arth 691]

8G would refer to a recon "A" series BMC, not a diesel. so not a 2.2 or 2.4 (which would really be 2.5 )

 

"G" is the MG petrol engine code.

[Baldy1976 3]

If the serial number is from a petrol engine......that's a shame....I was hoping it was from this engine.

[Tony Brooks 3059]

The exhaust manifold is a very old wet exhaust direct cooled one or one from the earliest wet exhaust heat exchanger systems and if that is original equipment I would suggest its a 2.2, not a 2.5. However the Newage 2.2 versions had a cast alloy rocker cover and that one look like pressed metal so it may be a self marinise job and if so goodness knows what it is.

[matty40s 4174]

Looks like the 2.2 to me, for some reason Ive worked on 3 of those in the last few weeks!!

[Baldy1976 3]

Back on the boat...found a dirty plate attached to the engine under all the grease - 

[TheBiscuits 4024]

41 minutes ago, Baldy1976 said:

Back on the boat...found a dirty plate attached to the engine under all the grease - 

I'll guess at it being a 2.5 diesel then ...

[Tony Brooks 3059]

Yes looks like a 2.5 so I guess the manifold is replacement. I did not think Tempest fitted that type of manifold, only Newage earlier.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Tony Brooks

[Baldy1976 3]

Thank you everyone for your input , i don't know what the plate I found on the floor is for .....could have been from the original engine when the boat was made.

 

Cheers 

[Tracy D'arth 691]

So Tempest Diesels  2.5..  Its a fair age. Spares  are getting a bit sparse.

[MartynG 418]

Maybe this is what it is expected to look like ?

 

 

https://boulters-chandlery.co.uk/Land-Rover-25-L-Marine-Diesel-engine-workshop-tested

 

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[Tracy D'arth 691]

5 minutes ago, MartynG said:

Maybe this is what it is expected to look like ?

 

 

https://boulters-chandlery.co.uk/Land-Rover-25-L-Marine-Diesel-engine-workshop-tested

 

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Spray gun reconditioned.  Is there a shortage of masking tape?

[Baldy1976 3]

55 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:

So Tempest Diesels  2.5..  Its a fair age. Spares  are getting a bit sparse.

Can still get the starter motors , alternators .....filters / belts , other than that .....calcutt boats might help

[Tony Brooks 3059]

31 minutes ago, MartynG said:

Maybe this is what it is expected to look like ?

 

 

https://boulters-chandlery.co.uk/Land-Rover-25-L-Marine-Diesel-engine-workshop-tested

 

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No, that's a Rover diesel, not a BMC. The BMC rocker cover has straight sides the Rover one has flutes on one side. It is the type of manifold I would expect.

[matty40s 4174]

1 hour ago, Baldy1976 said:

Can still get the starter motors , alternators .....filters / belts , other than that .....calcutt boats might help

We asked Calcutt about spares for the 2.2 without much joy , they have lots for the smaller engines though.

[MartynG 418]

17 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said:

Spray gun reconditioned.  Is there a shortage of masking tape?

The manifold and  rocker cover look different to the OP's .

[Tony Brooks 3059]

8 minutes ago, MartynG said:

The manifold and  rocker cover look different to the OP's .

That is because the photo is a Rover engine, not a BMC one. Different engine.

[bizzard 2434]

Yes Rover 2286cc, same capacity as they're 4 cyl petrol engine which was a superb engine, Rover 60 and series 2 Land Rovers. The diesel lacked oomph in the Land Rover and wasn't popular.  Bly me, I've just noticed that my reputation count is the same,  2286, and I had 2 series 2a and one series 1 Land Rovers which worked very hard in the motor trade.

Edited October 12, 2020 by bizzard

[David Mack 1751]

51 minutes ago, bizzard said:

The diesel lacked oomph in the Land Rover and wasn't popular.

Tell me about it ...

(One time owner of a Series 3 LWB diesel with a top speed of about 45mph, which was a bit scary on the M25).

Edited October 12, 2020 by David Mack