PeterScott Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Athy said: Two different breaches, or the same one which hadn't yet been repaired? Yes just the one breach, WaterwaysWorld was saying that the breach was to be fixed just after my photos at the end of February 1979 and that it had caaused £1m of damage, which would be about £5.8m in today's money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 On this day in 2006 On a trolley at Etruria Compare #4426 (6Dec2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Athy said: Two different breaches, or the same one which hadn't yet been repaired? Same one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 They didn’t need to lift tower bridge for us but still a nerve racking trip How small you are when on big rivers. Photo by the late Graham Palmer of WRG fame 1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Dav and Pen said: How small you are when on big rivers. Yes, small indeed ... ... this is downriver from the upper deck of Tower Bridge at the waterways protest in January 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Sea Dog said: Alongside HMS BELFAST in a couple of your photos is the Seawolf Leander Class frigate HMS HERMIONE, affectionately known as Hermi One. The Pool of London is aways a popular visit for RN warships and having Tower Bridge open for you is awesome. It can be a bit interesting from a navigation perspective though, and in '84 a similar frigate had a bit of an altercation with London Bridge, but that's another matter...! HMS Jupiter. The Captain reckoned he could spin the frigate without the assistance of the two tugs on standby. He was wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 On this day in 2010 Stone T&M Still icy Compare #4392 #4396 #4397 #4400 #4500 #4501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 59 minutes ago, David Mack said: HMS Jupiter. The Captain reckoned he could spin the frigate without the assistance of the two tugs on standby. He was wrong. He did.... and he was! Luckily, hardly anyone noticed... (It makes a good photo for all but one observer, doesn't it... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Sea Dog said: He did.... and he was! Luckily, hardly anyone noticed... (It makes a good photo for all but one observer, doesn't it... ) He really should have taken the wheelhouse down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Sea Dog said: He did.... and he was! Luckily, hardly anyone noticed... (It makes a good photo for all but one observer, doesn't it... ) Typical RN arrogance but mostly pride damaged plus a bill for the taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 On this day in 2013 Leeds services A+C and downriver on the pontoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 hours ago, David Mack said: HMS Jupiter. The Captain reckoned he could spin the frigate without the assistance of the two tugs on standby. He was wrong. Gosh, the nice Mr Google is wonderful, and offers here from Mick Harris: "I was there. There was a tad more to it than 'declining to use tugs' implies, although still somewhat embarrassing. The Ship's Co were delighted as we were due to head North on a JMC but instead returned to Devonport to rectify the damage." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Dav and Pen said: Typical RN arrogance but mostly pride damaged plus a bill for the taxpayers. I doubt his disciplinary board was to impressed, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 On this day in 2005 Stockton Top Marina. Rebuilding of Odyssey after the June fire. Compare #4242 (17Nov2005) #4172 (12Nov2005) #3515 (23Sept2005) #2181 (30June2005) The front cabin (smaller pic) had been unaffected and needed no remedial work. The engine and engine room was stripped back to the shell and refitted. Similarly the back cabin above, for which the specification was to rebuild as it was. Sadly nobody told the people doing the job. They were used to cruiser sterns and built this cabin without anywhere to stand to steer. They also had the side cupboards open to the elements. The top bunks, which fold down to make this sitting area, were built fixed. They had been for adults and were initially built six inches too narrow, and the replacement cushions are too narrow for the bunks to this day. The speakers had been connected to the front cabin music system but that wasn't done and we compromised on a separate radio. Such are the tribulations of building boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 How did you resolve these problems, particularly having nowhere to stand? Did the fitters come back and "make good"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Athy said: How did you resolve these problems, particularly having nowhere to stand? Did the fitters come back and "make good"? Lots of boating issues give way to having money thrown at them, and on this occasion there were twelve owners, a management company, the boatyard and some insurers who could argue among themselves. It was done well in the end, with the amendments and an extra week's work. These pictures from November show the fixed bunks, open storage sides, steps directly to the back deck (and no steering position) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Liley Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 The Moselle again. If you are sitting behind in a lock it pays to stay tethered until the wash dies down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Dav and Pen said: Typical RN arrogance Seems a bit harsh - have you had a bad experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 On this day in 2013 Above Leeds Lock A+C, with the Aire in sprightly mood, in the red, and the floating pontoon which was subsequently washed away in the 2015 Boxing Day floods Compare #4143 (2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Sea Dog said: Seems a bit harsh - have you had a bad experience? More than one as a MN officer and reservist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 17 hours ago, John Liley said: The Moselle again. If you are sitting behind in a lock it pays to stay tethered until the wash dies down. Come across this a few times, once on the Seine behind a pusher hung on to the rope with engine running until he was out of the lock and then had real struggle flicking the rope off whilst the waiting barges were obviously getting impatient. It’s worse trying to get in to these big locks when they’ve all got the props turning. On the Yonne this barge went out whilst we stayed tied but he threw up something hard which knocked a lump off our prop when we started to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Dav and Pen said: More than one as a MN officer and reservist Having spent more time than I would have wished protecting tankers in the Gulf and escorting them through the Straits of Hormuz, and pretending to be interested whilst being shown countless samey-samey engine rooms of British merchantmen around the world for the sake of making them feel loved and supported, I'd have to say I'm a bit disappointed to be tarred with that brush. As with any walk of life, there are a few dicks wearing the Queen's uniform, but I'd like to think far fewer than in most organisations. In my experience, it took a special effort for someone to stay a dick when surrounded by matelots ready and able to point it out in the starkest terms! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 On this day in 2005 Hillmorton Northern Oxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 My experience was in the late 50s and 60s when the RN officers were probably then of the shall we say old style public school boys. I sailed with an ex Rn lieutenant commander who had been invalided out after the Korean War and was now 2nd mate on a Shell Tanker he was some case and one night refused to alter course when challenged by Ark Royal. As we were all light up and they were in darkness they could see our name and when we arrived Thameshaven there was a very senior Shell official wanting details but he kept his job. The conversation with Ark Royal when like this We are an aircraft carrier with 4 escorts please keep clear. He replied this is a shell tanker with four lifeboats and 25000 tons of av gas advise you keep clear. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dav and Pen said: My experience was in the late 50s and 60s when the RN officers were probably then of the shall we say old style public school boys. I sailed with an ex Rn lieutenant commander who had been invalided out after the Korean War and was now 2nd mate on a Shell Tanker he was some case and one night refused to alter course when challenged by Ark Royal. As we were all light up and they were in darkness they could see our name and when we arrived Thameshaven there was a very senior Shell official wanting details but he kept his job. The conversation with Ark Royal when like this We are an aircraft carrier with 4 escorts please keep clear. He replied this is a shell tanker with four lifeboats and 25000 tons of av gas advise you keep clear. Reminds me of this old chestnut: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-obstinate-lighthouse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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