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  1. The shallow draught of a grp narrow beam would be welcome, but I think your nerves would tested to the limit on the Llangollen. Obviously it's a busy canal and full of inexperienced hire boat crews for a start, and those by washes on the locks would take some skill to negotiate in a skittish grp cruiser.
  2. It's an option I'm looking at as well. We sold our last narrowboat a couple of years ago and simply can't justify the cost of acquisition and ownership again. But if you are used to canal cruising in a big steel boat, a small grp cruiser will take a lot of getting used to. Mad Harold has listed some of the drawbacks all of which I agree with, but there's another consideration which is the way narrow grp boats handle. Note I say narrow, as "proper" grp boats are a different animal. If you have ever witnessed someone trying to control something like a Nauticus 27 on a windy day you will see what I mean... Now, someone will come along and tell you they have such a vessel and it's no trouble at all, but if you have been schooled on a heavy steel boat with tiller steering believe me a featherlight narrow grp cruiser will come as something of a shock. And, of course you will need a shedload of plastic fenders which will have to be stowed every time you go through locks. OTOH if you don't mind being restricted to wide canals, and rivers, a grp boat makes perfect sense, and they are far better value for money than narrowboats. Just bear in mind that the flip side is they are harder to sell, when the time comes. If you have to go narrow, off the top of my head you are looking at the little 22' Freemans, Nauticus 27's, various Dawncrafts and Normans, but I would keep a lookout for a Highbridge 32 - have a look around the web if you don't know what they are, but they were designed/built with canal cruising in mind and can be had for under £20k. They don't come up for sale that often and condition varies enormously, but for narrow canal cruising I doubt there's anything better. (The much rarer Dawncraft Rover is essentially the same boat). Just a final thought, my wife and I had enormous fun with our first boat which was a Springer Waterbug. These were 20-23 foot steel boats powered by outboard motors and with a V shaped hull. Unlike a grp boat of similar size the Waterbug, being around 3 tonnes, handles really well and for short trips they are a very practical choice. Unfortunately most surviving examples will have been overplated which for such a tiny boat causes some issues (there's no ballast to remove so the boat inevitably sits a lot lower in the water). Nevertheless it's another budget option.
  3. Well, "disgusting behaviour" or not, I'd say that's game set and match. It's very clear from the above that payment of a deposit constitutes a sale, the broker can't have it both ways.
  4. It's just occurred to me that I'm sure this particular broker, along with a view others, used to take the view that a deposit was a commitment to sale, a sort of down payment, if you like, which was only refundable in the event of some significant fault with the boat being revealed by a professional survey. As far as I know Great Haywood still operate this way, ie their view is that a deposit effectively locks you into the sale. If I am right, the broker we're talking about has changed their policy, and it makes you wonder why, unless it is to allow them the freedom to do what is being alleged in this thread.
  5. Plenty of red diesel where I live, about 50 miles from the nearest waterway/coastline... We were without petrol/diesel for five days so folk were getting desperate, I'm sure some weren't able to resist the temptation.
  6. The broker states quite clearly that once a £1000 deposit is paid, the boat is removed from the market. They will of course say that it doesn't mean no further offers can be accepted, but that doesn't pass the test of reasonableness. If you paid the deposit and it was received by the broker before the unconditional offer was accepted, you are 100% in the right, that's all there is to it. The broker is playing fast and loose because they probably think you won't sue. Plus, they already have such a shocking reputation, among those in the know, it can't sink any lower. I feel some sympathy for the seller, who was probably advised by the broker that this is all above board and of course as a seller you would choose to believe that... But the seller could resolve this if he chose to. It illustrates what a bear pit the boat market is at the moment, how many of us watch this from a distance and think glad I'm out of it. I do hope some normality returns in the not too distant future but somehow I doubt it will.
  7. Matrix is probably the wrong term - the heat exchanger, the mass of tubes in an instant GWH that the water flows through whilst it's being heated by the gas flame. I must have left a small amount of water in there and the tubes are small bore and quite fragile. One of the many things about boat design, not just narrowboats, that annoys me is how difficult it often is to thoroughly drain the water system. In some case there is no provision at all. Yet the vast majority of boats spend their winters unoccupied.
  8. I used to work in the flood damage restoration business so I am paranoid about this sort of thing. Even so, despite assiduously draining down my boat every winter, a few years ago I returned to discover a burst water heater matrix. It had been a particularly hard winter, but I was so sure I had drained the matrix thoroughly it never occurred to me there would be a problem. I think if you don't have regular access to the boat in the winter the non toxic anti freeze is a wise precaution - no-one knows how bad/cold the winter is going to be.
  9. Well it seems like a good idea but it sounds as though the OP's boat wasn't designed like that, otherwise it wouldn't be "life threatening". I've certainly seen at least one installation where the tube was buried away right down in the bilge with no obvious access to it. I guess having a gas locker type compartment is seen as a waste of space on the modern narrowboat. Incidentally I've noticed a couple of boats for sale recently - older boats - where the bowthruster tube has been sealed from the outside.
  10. I've often wondered about the wisdom of steel bowthruster tubes. Even if the thing is blacked or treated in some way, there's no way most owners are going to remove the thruster every time the boat comes out of the water and that tube is a pretty harsh environment. Plus, how many surveyors are going to give an opinion on the condition of the tube? I can imagine there must now be a fair few older boats with aged rusting thruster tubes, it sounds like Glenda's boat is one. Unless the tube is within a sealed compartment there's every chance a perforated tube could cause a nb to sink.
  11. I notice that the GUCC also employed their livery colours of white, light blue and dark blue in the counter bands. I don't doubt there was a visibility aspect to it but that doesn't explain why/how white over red became so ubiquitous. There's evidence from pictures of working boats from the past that the counter bands were painted in sympathy with the company's livery, and I wonder if it's simply that a number of fleets eg FMC used white lettering on a red background so white and red counter bands predominated. In the modern age I've noticed that Black Prince hire boats use a particular shade of cream/yellow which matches the coachline colour - but it's still combined with red!
  12. Does anyone remember those "Burma Shave" signs they used to have in the states such as.. I think CRT should resurrect the idea, especially as going at under 4mph the helmsman has plenty of time to read them. What about: MOORED BOATS AHEAD KILL YOUR SPEED OR VERBAL ABUSE ...IS GUARANTEED!
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  14. It's also very confusing for the new wave of canal boaters. I imagine a lot would sail past thinking I'd like to turn round but my name's Smith.
  15. Oh come on, that would take all the fun out of it. What are internet forums for if it isn't having endless discussions based on conjecture and opinions with no hard facts in sight?
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