SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 I have between 0.5-0 75 metric ton of mann buck steel ballast under my floor which I don't need now the layout has changed. I'll take it out and sell it to anyone who wants it. I'll charge considerably less than mann buck prices and can unload it roadside in the Shipley area, or could deliver. It went in my focus estate which can take 900kg in theory but it was down on it's springs!
stagedamager Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 What shape and size are the pieces??
SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Posted September 12, 2013 They are rectangular. IIRC something like 30*20*2.5cm. This is a guess. They are a good size for ballast anyways. They will be a ballache to remove so I need a kick up the arse to do it, eg someone wanting to buy em!
Robbo Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 They are rectangular. IIRC something like 30*20*2.5cm. This is a guess. They are a good size for ballast anyways. They will be a ballache to remove so I need a kick up the arse to do it, eg someone wanting to buy em! PMed...
stagedamager Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 What price are you looking for??
c c Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 Wish you weren't so far a way - just what I'm looking for
SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Posted September 12, 2013 I think I paid between £450-500 for it. I'd want £400 I think. The lads at mann buck chucked some extra in for me that I didn't pay for because they liked my dog! So there's at least £500 worth at mann buck prices. I THINK. Obvs I would calculate weight by density when removed as I've no interest in ripping anyone off. Robbo I would be up for delivery by boat.
stagedamager Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 I think I'll bow out at that price. Heavy iron is currently much less than that at scrap price and I have a supplier of chunky plate ends. Good luck with the sale. Dan
SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Posted September 12, 2013 Actually if it's half a ton it'd be more like £250 quid after I done a bit of research . . Let's say £500 per ton pro rata. Mann Buck is £600 per ton collected inc vat.
onionbargee Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) no steel ballast should be £500 tonne. ( delivery not included) i weighed in some rail track offcuts a few months ago for £165 a tonne. Edited September 12, 2013 by onionbargee
SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Posted September 12, 2013 You might be right but Mann Buck sell it at £600/ton. The price we get for weighing stuff in is not the price that we'd have to pay to get it back an hour later too. Mann Buck do a chrome steel ballast for £720/ton.
onionbargee Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 As soon as you drive your van in to the scrappy the price starts dropping before you can even get onto the scales !
SamKingfisher Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Posted September 12, 2013 Well, I'm like the fricking leaning tower of Pisa since pumping the tank out. It has to go. I'll take it out, then decide how much I want to keep to balance the pump out then I'll revisit this topic with exact dimensions and weight. There's been some interest so I know it will sell, though obvs not for what I paid for it!
Tesla Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 Just brought 2 tonnes of the stuff so don't need any more Good stuff and Bill Mann a good guy to deal with. This is what 2 tonnes looked like... £500 per tonne is the going rate.
The Pipe Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 You might be right but Mann Buck sell it at £600/ton. The price we get for weighing stuff in is not the price that we'd have to pay to get it back an hour later too. Mann Buck do a chrome steel ballast for £720/ton. And how are you going to insulate it from you hull? Just put it in with contact to your hull and your hull will be the sacrificial anode.
Bazza954 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Posted October 1, 2013 Well, I'm like the fricking leaning tower of Pisa since pumping the tank out. It has to go. I'll take it out, then decide how much I want to keep to balance the pump out then I'll revisit this topic with exact dimensions and weight. There's been some interest so I know it will sell, though obvs not for what I paid for it! Have you managed to remove the unwanted ballast yet ? I am local to you and am in need of some ballast for my boat, if it's the right price. Do you have any idea how much each piece weighs and the dims ?
MtB Posted October 1, 2013 Report Posted October 1, 2013 And how are you going to insulate it from you hull? Just put it in with contact to your hull and your hull will be the sacrificial anode. Not sure I understand how. Firstly there needs to be a more noble metal and a less noble metal as I understand it, then there needs to be an electrolyte and an external electrical circuit to enable erosion to occur. Can you expand upon this please? Thanks MtB
Taslim Posted October 1, 2013 Report Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Not sure I understand how. Firstly there needs to be a more noble metal and a less noble metal as I understand it, then there needs to be an electrolyte and an external electrical circuit to enable erosion to occur. Can you expand upon this please? Thanks MtB First part. Yes, as you understand though different types of steel will react with each other in an electrolite because of their different composition and the electrolite could just be mucky water. Second part. No. The two metals form a primary cell, they create a potential difference. They need no electrical input to cause trouble. Edited October 1, 2013 by Taslim
SamKingfisher Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Posted October 2, 2013 Soz I think Robbo is having it, if he still wants it, as he got in first. When I rang Mann Buck the price of £500/ton didn't include VAT. I presume chrome steel is higher up the 'fizz-chain' than mild, and so would be a bad plan unless you were sure your bilge was dry. As an aside don't buy tap and die sets on ebay that look like a bargain - counterfeit and made of the mildest steel in the known universe.
Robbo Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 Soz I think Robbo is having it, if he still wants it, as he got in first. Defo! If you want to get rid sooner rather than later then give us a shout.
DHutch Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 no steel ballast should be £500 tonne. ( delivery not included) i weighed in some rail track offcuts a few months ago for £165 a tonne. Depends, if its virgin steel, cut to the customers demand, because they are tight for space... sounds about right to me. Daniel
SamKingfisher Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Posted October 2, 2013 I'm in no rush but it'll need to be before the stoppages in the Apperley bridge area - do you know when they kick in? Can always load the car if necessary but I like the idea of being a transport boat! Got lots of work on, very little time for boat stuff at present.
alan_fincher Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 When I rang Mann Buck the price of £500/ton didn't include VAT. I From comment passed to me by the driver of one of the wonderful big lorries for a logistics firm they use for delivery, very few transactions that Mann Buck get involved in seem to involve VAT! Apparently the drivers are very used to collecting large amounts of money in cash when they are working for this particular firm. As an aside, although still very expensive, somewhat cheaper from Mann Buck is ex naval cast iron ballast, but each 25Kg lump is about the size of a large loaf of bread, so it is only useful if you have space to lose something about 5" in height.
DHutch Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 I would aim to do something to stop it damaging the paint, and collection damp, if I could. Certainly we caught ourselves out a little with heaving some movable lead trimming weights, bashed down on the steel, in the occasionally damp rear bilge! Daniel
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