How many stoppages are there?

[Heartland]

With the collapsed culvert on the Leeds & Liverpool, the problems on the Peak Forest and the Middlewich Breach are there any more? It would appear the fates have contrived to block several important cruising routes...

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, Heartland said:

How many stoppages are there ?

If you have a look on the C&RT website (stoppages pages) and highlight the area(s) you are interested in it will give you the full list - problem is it can be out-of-date within minutes so should not be relied on.

[dmr]

Marsh Lock is broken big time. This connects the River Weaver to the Manchester Ship Canal, a bit of a "specialist route" but it was getting increasing use as a bypass for the Middlewich Arm.

 

There is a constant stream of failures but most are fixed with a stoppage of only a day or two. I think Aston Locks (Birmingham) are due for a bigger stoppage to complete work that could not be done in the winter.

 

..............Dave

[Heartland]

That is interesting to see Marsh Lock had been used. Is Weston Point Lock still available?

 

Of course such routes are only available for craft that comply with Manchester Ship Canal rules and regulations. Such stoppages must be concern for the hire boat companies as they find less routes available for their trade.

[dmr]

1 minute ago, Heartland said:

That is interesting to see Marsh Lock had been used. Is Weston Point Lock still available?

 

Of course such routes are only available for craft that comply with Manchester Ship Canal rules and regulations. Such stoppages must be concern for the hire boat companies as they find less routes available for their trade.

There was a thread about this very recently, with somebody providing some excellent information about the old locks and basins. Have a search but the short answer is no, lock has not been looked after.

 

I suspect the Middlewich stoppage is going to hurt some canal businesses badly, good thing is it's forcing hirers to get out of the ring mentality and explore, suspect a lot are finding out how wonderful the Caldon is.

 

...................Dave

[Heartland]

For those that look at the CRT stoppage website, there is so much information that strict search criteria need to be employed to find anything useful.

 

The stoppages mentioned are critical to where boaters and hire boaters may venture, though. It would be nice to think that some might venture along waterways lesser used like the Tame Valley on the BCN, as Aston Locks has been specified in the CRT notice:

 

From Date:

4th June 2018 at 08:00

To Date:

20th July 2018 at 17:00 inclusive

Type:

Navigation Closure

Reason:

Repair

Description:

Work is required at Aston Lock 4 to replace the bottom gate and repair the top gate.  This could not be completed during the winter stoppage programme due to the huge amount of other work that needed to be achieved across the area.    

Following consultation it has been agreed the Aston Lock 4 works will be carried out as a summer closure.  This means we can take advantage of better weather conditions and longer daylight hours.   There are also good alternative routes available via the Digbeth Branch and the Birmingham & Warwick Junction Canal. 

During the closure, additional work will be carried out at the lock to repair the chamber brickwork, repair copings and to improve the lock ladders.

Starts at

Lock 1, Aston Top Lock

Ends At:

Aston Lock 7

Up Stream Winding Hole:

The junction with Digbeth Branch (Birmingham & Fazeley Canal)

Down Stream Winding Hole:

Above Lock 8, near Whitehouse Street

 

The reference to the "huge amount" of work probably needs to be put into perspective. Is it down to the misfortune of unplanned engineering, planned engineering or staff cuts?

Edited June 22, 2018 by Heartland

[Alan de Enfield]

On ‎21‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 12:10, dmr said:

There was a thread about this very recently, with somebody providing some excellent information about the old locks and basins. Have a search but the short answer is no, lock has not been looked after.

 

I suspect the Middlewich stoppage is going to hurt some canal businesses badly, good thing is it's forcing hirers to get out of the ring mentality and explore, suspect a lot are finding out how wonderful the Caldon is.

 

...................Dave

I assume that C&RT will do as BW did in the past and take the canal business turnover for the previous years and work out an average, they will then re-imburse them for the months' lost profit.

 

(eg : Mon & Brec hire companies were reimbursed lost income when they had a bad-breach a few years ago - I was in the midst of negotiating to buy one of them)

 

No idea if it is BW / C&RT directly or their insurers that pay-out.

[dmr]

13 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

I assume that C&RT will do as BW did in the past and take the canal business turnover for the previous years and work out an average, they will then re-imburse them for the months' lost profit.

 

(eg : Mon & Brec hire companies were reimbursed lost income when they had a bad-breach a few years ago - I was in the midst of negotiating to buy one of them)

 

No idea if it is BW / C&RT directly or their insurers that pay-out.

Interesting, I didn't know about this. Is this limited to hire boats that hold a CaRT licence, or could pubs and shops also make a claim?????

 

.................Dave

[Alan de Enfield]

12 minutes ago, dmr said:

Interesting, I didn't know about this. Is this limited to hire boats that hold a CaRT licence, or could pubs and shops also make a claim?????

 

.................Dave

I have no-eyed-deer.

I only found out about it as it was shown as income in the accounts, with an explanation as to what it was - further questions revealed it was 'standard practice', but what the scope is I don't know.

[X Alan W]

On 21/06/2018 at 13:10, dmr said:

There was a thread about this very recently, with somebody providing some excellent information about the old locks and basins. Have a search but the short answer is no, lock has not been looked after.

 

I suspect the Middlewich stoppage is going to hurt some canal businesses badly, good thing is it's forcing hirers to get out of the ring mentality and explore, suspect a lot are finding out how wonderful the Caldon is.

 

...................Dave

But now the lift bidge is out of action on theCaldon well it was "tother"day

[David Mack]

4 minutes ago, X Alan W said:

But now the lift bidge is out of action on theCaldon well it was "tother"day

That one was sorted within a day or two.

[robtheplod]

it would be good if you can see a canal map of the UK as a whole with all 'blocks', unless one exists already?  bit like a live AA map...

[Alan de Enfield]

9 minutes ago, robtheplod said:

it would be good if you can see a canal map of the UK as a whole with all 'blocks', unless one exists already?  bit like a live AA map...

Hmmmm - I'm not sure it would be 'good' and would certainly not show C&RT in a 'good light'.

[Allan(nb Albert)]

A snapshot of C&RT's website a couple of weeks back gave 13 -

 

https://www.thefloater.org/the-floater-june-2018/closed-until-further-notice

[Alan de Enfield]

35 minutes ago, Allan(nb Albert) said:

A snapshot of C&RT's website a couple of weeks back gave 13 -

 

https://www.thefloater.org/the-floater-june-2018/closed-until-further-notice

"Floater - Closed until further notice"

 

Is that a planned or unplanned closure ?