mrsmelly Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Hi Peeps Just checking online and it appears BWML have introduced some stupid blue or green card system for buying diesel at their marinas to supposedly make life easier re declarations etc Does anyone use sawley or any other BWML marina for their diesel now and can a card be obtained from their office? I have seen they are obtainable on line but the boat has no post box to send them to as I would need both cards. They are used at all BWML marinas it appears. Not desperate by any means and dont have to fill up there but was wonderin? Taa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) When we were informed about the need to have them it was to 1) enable self service 2) to ensure that an 'BWML employee charged the correct amount 3) was only available to BWML berth holders. Non BWML berth holders could be served as normal (at manned pumps) and make a declaration Edit to add : Now I've got the cards, I've dumped the email I had from them. Edited March 17, 2018 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 When we were at Kings in the late spring we were told that self service was turned off on the orders of HMRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, pearley said: When we were at Kings in the late spring we were told that self service was turned off on the orders of HMRC. Yes it seems that way. i will fill up elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 I have heard that the Sawley unlimited pump-out has been turned off as well after representations from the flat earth society as they felt some ructions in the earth plates around the 3 rivers junction area. Small pump outs will still be available , but only cassette sized deposits for a reasonable fee, large tanks could well be banned under local effluent regulations and wide beams could well be "Tom Puddinged" out to the centre of the North Sea for ejections....return journey at extra cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, matty40s said: I have heard that the Sawley unlimited pump-out has been turned off as well after representations from the flat earth society as they felt some ructions in the earth plates around the 3 rivers junction area. Small pump outs will still be available , but only cassette sized deposits for a reasonable fee, large tanks could well be banned under local effluent regulations and wide beams could well be "Tom Puddinged" out to the centre of the North Sea for ejections....return journey at extra cost. Doubt I will ever get there anyway!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, pearley said: When we were at Kings in the late spring we were told that self service was turned off on the orders of HMRC. And not in any way related to making BWML moorers feel tied in to buying BWML diesel (even though they are not) just before putting BWML up for sale! Our local BWML (White Bear) were priced at a flat rate 99p/l last time I looked, with a sign on the pump saying that was a 60/40 split at whatever that works out as. All the other suppliers have the domestic ppl set on the pump and add tax to the declared propulsion percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 We've got some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: 3) was only available to BWML berth holders. Non BWML berth holders could be served as normal (at manned pumps) and make a declaration The cards are not limited to BWML bertholders After it was mentioned I applied for and received a card . I may rarely use the card but its there in case of need. Hull is a possible refuelling stop for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, MartynG said: The cards are not limited to BWML bertholders After it was mentioned I applied for and received a card . I may rarely use the card but its there in case of need. Hull is a possible refuelling stop for us. I have a boat in Hull (Railway Dock) - its not the easiest fuel berth to get onto and the hose is not very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, mrsmelly said: Hi Peeps Just checking online and it appears BWML have introduced some stupid blue or green card system for buying diesel at their marinas to supposedly make life easier re declarations etc Does anyone use sawley or any other BWML marina for their diesel now and can a card be obtained from their office? I have seen they are obtainable on line but the boat has no post box to send them to as I would need both cards. They are used at all BWML marinas it appears. Not desperate by any means and dont have to fill up there but was wonderin? Taa Surely they can sell you some diesel without the card? If you are coming this way Newark Marina is usually reasonably priced but will only let you have 60/40 split . Farndon might do domestic rate while its still winter (not sure). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said: I have a boat in Hull (Railway Dock) - its not the easiest fuel berth to get onto and the hose is not very long. I have refuelled at Hull with no particular issues . The fuel berth was handy for our friends who ran out of diesel on one engine just as they entered the lock ! Don't know how you can cope with owning more than one boat - it must be like having more than one wife - but perhaps you have a wife in every boat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, MartynG said: I have refuelled at Hull with no particular issues . The fuel berth was handy for our friends who ran out of diesel on one engine just as they entered the lock ! Don't know how you can cope with owning more than one boat - it must be like having more than one wife - but perhaps you have a wife in every boat ? With a 23 foot beam there is not a lot of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Alan de Enfield said: With a 23 foot beam there is not a lot of space. I see your difficulty. The absence of sufficient length of the fuel pontoon is presumably also part of the challenge . I have in my mind said boat is 30m long ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, MartynG said: I see your difficulty. The absence of sufficient length of the fuel pontoon is presumably also part of the challenge . I have in my mind said boat is 30m long ? Not quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MartynG said: I see your difficulty. The absence of sufficient length of the fuel pontoon is presumably also part of the challenge . I have in my mind said boat is 30m long ? No, he's got a stumpy rectangle with two hulls and a trampoline. Gah! Beaten to it. Is she a 38 footer Alan? Edited March 17, 2018 by TheBiscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Not what I imagined but very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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