Solicitors suggestions - purchasing freehold w/riparian rights.

[itsmrjack]

Hi folks,

 

Could anyone please offer recommendations for solicitors who are savvy with the purchase/sale of freehold land with mooring/riparian rights attached to it?

 

To be clear, we are not looking here for advice on the ins and outs of such 'rights' or use of the land, we have already exchanged ample spoken and written communications with respective entities including the Environment Agency, the current land owner and the Council/planning department.

 

So I would just kindly ask that people keep responses in the area of names for solicitors. I only ask as I know that boating forum'ers are so often keen to offer their ample experience and knowledge in, usually, the most helpful of ways but we are already plenty benefited by the transfer of such wisdom and in this case just needing some straightforward recommendations of quality legal representation to do the bits we would otherwise find a headache

 

*Note*, we are not, in fact, looking to live on the land or to moor as 'residential'

 

Many thanks in advance,

Chris.

 

Ps. If anyone does want to ask questions about what we're up to please feel free to PM me.

[ditchcrawler]

 

 

Ps. If anyone does want to ask questions about what we're up to please feel free to PM me.

They can't

[mross]

What Ditchcrawlwer means is that you can't send PMs until you have posted twice.

 

I don't think your snippy tone does you any favours when you are asking people to help you.

Edited November 8, 2016 by mross

[OldGoat]

One Nigel Moore of this parish may be of help, but you'll have to be very polite..

 

There's a firm called Shoo - something or other, who might have some knowledge.......

[itsmrjack]

Oh dear... try writing in a frank, straight-to-the-point manner and get cut down. From my point of view this is a classic case of misinterpreted tone that so often comes with text-based communication. I was really just keen to avoid wasting anyone's time by inadvertently encouraging unneeded advice eg. this thread from 3 years ago on an identical request http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56021 where only one person responded to the initial request. As I said, I have had much help from boat forum'ers in the past, for which I am grateful.

 

Ah, thanks for pointing out the PM restriction ditchcrawler. Well the offer stands, so maybe then just reply on the thread and we'll figure a way for us to talk. I'm certainly no fountain of knowledge but learning a lot and so am happy to share what I know regards buying land to which one can moor in some capacity.

 

Aaaanyhow, I have now found a solicitor who says they may be able to help and have leads for one or two other specialist firms, so once I've spoken to them in the following days I will repost here with details should anyone find the info useful in future.

One Nigel Moore of this parish may be of help, but you'll have to be very polite..

 

There's a firm called Shoo - something or other, who might have some knowledge.......

Thank you!

Edited November 8, 2016 by itsmrjack

[mross]

I understand. But I would suggest that you ask for advice without setting conditions. It's then up to you to filter the useful from the chaff. I don't think riparian rights would be a puzzle to most conveyancers.

 

You'll be lucky if your thread stays on topic!!!

[OldGoat]

The second line of my previous post was very much tongue in cheek (as others who have read some of the very long running threads will know), but I'll stand by my first.

The OP may be 'protesting too much' , but it doesn't hurt to try and find a firm who really knows your specific problem - if there is any in the end.

From my own experience even a simple issue of field boundaries drew a blank from local country solicitors.

You have to bear in mind that the vast number of conveyancing practices deal with straightforward (?) registered urban / town properties.

In one case I had to do the research myself and 'lead' the solicitor. Great satisfaction on both sides.

English law can be a complete muddle and often a huge amount of digging around has to be done - which costs a lot...

[Richard10002]

 

Aaaanyhow, I have now found a solicitor who says they may be able to help and have leads for one or two other specialist firms, so once I've spoken to them in the following days I will repost here with details should anyone find the info useful in future.

 

Be careful with solicitors... many will tell you they can do what you ask, and you then find that you are paying for their learning curve.

 

What you need, (and you obviously know this), is someone who has dealt with this type of thing many times, and can do it in their sleep.

[Bod]

I think the first question should be, where in the country is the bit of land?

It would not be much use, recommending a solicitor in say Bristol, if the land is in York.

 

Bod

[Phoenix_V]

 

 

 

so once I've spoken to them in the following days I will repost here with details should anyone find the info useful in future.

Thank you!

 

yes please

I don't think riparian rights would be a puzzle to most conveyancers.

 

I would

[itsmrjack]

The OP may be 'protesting too much' , but it doesn't hurt to try and find a firm who really knows your specific problem - if there is any in the end.

From my own experience even a simple issue of field boundaries drew a blank from local country solicitors.

You have to bear in mind that the vast number of conveyancing practices deal with straightforward (?) registered urban / town properties.

In one case I had to do the research myself and 'lead' the solicitor. Great satisfaction on both sides.

English law can be a complete muddle and often a huge amount of digging around has to be done - which costs a lot...

Aye, my feelings more or less... Hence why I'm determined to do as much research prior to, and for the purposes of, finding a solicitor as possible.

 

 

I think the first question should be, where in the country is the bit of land?

It would not be much use, recommending a solicitor in say Bristol, if the land is in York.

 

Bod

Locality is a key search filter for me. Though if I can find someone with the right experience and I am able to, for example, have a local surveyor do their bit in support then I suppose that's the sort of arrangement that might work too. I'm keeping my options open at this point.

[OldGoat]

itsmrjack, on 08 Nov 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

Aye, my feelings more or less... Hence why I'm determined to do as much research prior to, and for the purposes of, finding a solicitor as possible.

 

 

 

Locality is a key search filter for me. Though if I can find someone with the right experience and I am able to, for example, have a local surveyor do their bit in support then I suppose that's the sort of arrangement that might work too. I'm keeping my options open at this point.

(Obviously) you don't want to disclose your location - if your search is a general one, it get's more complicated - the key is 'local practice and custom'.

A further suggestion is a local Estate agent - not house sellers but a firm with working with country estates and farmers. Someone with a 'proper' qualification, Chartered surveyor, CEM qualified and the like. I had a local firm and the Principal was most knowledgeable when selling a 15th. century cottage.