Richardcn Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hi all Question No1 (of 10,000) as a newbie boat 'owner' ' My' RN DM2 - Will I be needing (although hopefully not too often whichever ) imperial tooling or metric. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnit Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Mine has a mixture of both....I have found it responds well to an adjustable spanner and a 4lb copper an hide mallet though! ;-) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 But no Whitworth....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Whatever spanners you buy, there will be nuts, bolts etc which none of them fits. This is not specific to RN engines, it's 'boat' thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardcn Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Whatever spanners you buy, there will be nuts, bolts etc which none of them fits. This is not specific to RN engines, it's 'boat' thing. My toolbox is already well set up for boats then! Problem solved (Would still like to know DM2 owners thoughts though ) Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnit Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I am a DM2 owner, honest! :-) ;-)...as above it does have a mixture and yes Whitworth too!, but that is imperial! ..also metric allen screws...something I have found quite important is an oil can for the governor as mine requires oiling most days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain birdseye Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Most should be Whitworth, or at least imperial. But various add on bits are bought in, such as water pumps, so could be metric. I have never been "inside" the engine, but all pipe fittings seem to be imperial, which are the sort of thing that can vibrate loose, and so need periodic checking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutts Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hi all Question No1 (of 10,000) as a newbie boat 'owner' ' My' RN DM2 - Will I be needing (although hopefully not too often whichever ) imperial tooling or metric. Richard Metric for kids (it's easier for them to understand).Imperial for professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardcn Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I am a DM2 owner, honest! :-) ;-)...as above it does have a mixture and yes Whitworth too!, but that is imperial! ..also metric allen screws...something I have found quite important is an oil can for the governor as mine requires oiling most days It's okay I believe you What I meant to say was '...other owners as well.' (Bad start to being an RN owner dissing another bro' ) Most should be Whitworth, or at least imperial. But various add on bits are bought in, such as water pumps, so could be metric. I have never been "inside" the engine, but all pipe fittings seem to be imperial, which are the sort of thing that can vibrate loose, and so need periodic checking I'll have to increase my 'adjustables' collection to add some imperial ones me thinks Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'll have to increase my 'adjustables' collection to add some imperial ones me thinks Richard Bahco do good ones. http://www.screwfix.com/p/bahco-8070-adjustable-wrench-6-/62224?kpid=62224&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&kpid=62224&cm_mmc=Google-_-Shopping%20-%20Hand%20Tools-_-Shopping%20-%20Hand%20Tools&gclid=Cj0KEQjw-OCqBRDXmIWvveLE3_cBEiQAZWfImQ-0XnXEPnIALwhD1NXAE_IXQacCdcbzGSbIVrbpFlUaAjNd8P8HAQ Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardcn Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Bahco do good ones. http://www.screwfix.com/p/bahco-8070-adjustable-wrench-6-/62224?kpid=62224&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&kpid=62224&cm_mmc=Google-_-Shopping%20-%20Hand%20Tools-_-Shopping%20-%20Hand%20Tools&gclid=Cj0KEQjw-OCqBRDXmIWvveLE3_cBEiQAZWfImQ-0XnXEPnIALwhD1NXAE_IXQacCdcbzGSbIVrbpFlUaAjNd8P8HAQ Daniel Nah that's a metric one mate! Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Metric for kids (it's easier for them to understand). Imperial for professionals. That'll be the "professionals" who chew up perfectly good metric nuts with their old Whitworth C-spanners, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 That'll be the "professionals" who chew up perfectly good metric nuts with their old Whitworth C-spanners, then? Some personal bitterness showing? What's a Whitworth C-spanner, BTW? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) From the RN web site: "Most of the engine components are made to Imperial dimensions and the nuts and bolts are Whitworth threads". The "most" is slightly worrying! Edited May 18, 2015 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Some personal bitterness showing? What's a Whitworth C-spanner, BTW? Tim Just a vote in favour of using the right tool for the job - always. I don't much like 'adjustable' spanners either -- did you know the French refer to such a tool as "un clef anglais"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Just a vote in favour of using the right tool for the job - always. This. So much this. I've never had issues on the boat but I've had a couple of motorbikes that have left me seriously contemplating tracking down previous owners to do violence to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Just a vote in favour of using the right tool for the job - always. I don't much like 'adjustable' spanners either -- did you know the French refer to such a tool as "un clef anglais"? Adjustable spanners have their place, but not for routine use especially on smaller hexagons. Known with good reason in some circles as 'nut-knackerers'. Here is a C-spanner, BTW. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Local name variations I think, Tim. Although I'm NW based and have been for years, I hail from the Mystic East (-anglia). Can we agree on 'open-ender' for an ordinary spanner? Edited May 18, 2015 by Machpoint005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain birdseye Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Combination spanners are best as most of the nuts you can use the ring end of the spanner, but there is the odd one where you really need to use the open ended end of the spanner, and yes, most of the nuts I have checked are Whitworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 We have a really nice Elora whitworth set on the boat, with what looks like etched chrome finish, metric set has red flashes painted on, AF set has green flashes.... Adjustables are used, but only good quality adjustables, and normally for nuts that are known to be only just above finger tight, and where access permits which it often doesnt. 12th of a turn nuts anyone? Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Clinton Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hi all Question No1 (of 10,000) as a newbie boat 'owner' ' My' RN DM2 - Will I be needing (although hopefully not too often whichever ) imperial tooling or metric. Richard you need two whitworth sizes, from memory 3/16" and 5/16" but I might be wrong, for almost everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 you need two whitworth sizes, from memory 3/16" and 5/16" but I might be wrong, for almost everything. Now that all depends whether you are talking Whit or BSW sizes (see the Gardner fuel filter thread). I believe 3/16", 1/4" and 5/16" WHIT will do most things unless you get involved with top or bottom end overhauls. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Clinton Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Now that all depends whether you are talking Whit or BSW sizes (see the Gardner fuel filter thread). I believe 3/16", 1/4" and 5/16" WHIT will do most things unless you get involved with top or bottom end overhauls. Tim do you mean BSW or BSF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 do you mean BSW or BSF? They use the same spanner sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutts Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 When do we get started on B.A, BSPT, ANC & ANF sizes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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