Richardcn

I don't think that's a winding hole or not an official one at least and IIRC it looked rather shallow when we passed yesterday. Anyhow I think I've solved it, see above post.

Ah I've just solved the mystery myself. The lines extend to the end of the next kilometer marker (I believe it's km's and not miles anyway). I remembered that Open Canal Map has little circles marking each km length and they align perfectly with a few closures that I compared on both maps. Hopefully that means we can now moor in Parbold and not find ourselves on the bottom and 'inside' a closure! Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

As I originally suggested. However: Maybe there's a correlation between size of the closure/works (ie between the placeholders) and the two extension?

Then why not just put the placeholders at the farthest ends? Also, there is more than one 'asset' (bridges in one of the cases I've linked) between placeholder and the end of the red line! It still isn't obvious why the extended lines, to me anyway.

Yes I believe so but why the lines extending beyond the 'comets'? And so I've spotted the flaw in BEngo's suggestion. Why not just stop at the 'comets', why the extended lines?

Excellent answer. Now it all becomes clear. However, unfortunately it doesn't help with my dilemma as we want to moor on the edge of a closure after passing through a few days before. We just don't want to end up trapped within it! How are permanent moorers informed when they will be within an area that will be dewatered, or at least inaccessible.

Of course, but that still doesn't answer my question as the red lines do not usually finish at winding holes. Certainly not in the case of the two that I am particularly interested in: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/22257-culvert-80-near-newburgh https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/22254-lock-87-wigan-flight-bottom-lock Three of the ends are bridges hence my thought that these might be where stop planks were installed.

Absolutely but the winding holes don't pinpoint the extremities of the closure, which is what I'm interested in.

Hi All I've often wondered (but never actually needed to know) why the red (or other coloured) lines on the CRT stoppages/info maps usually extend beyond the actual area affected ie, beyond the place markers. Has anybody worked this out? I'd like to know as this might affect where we moor over the next few weeks. Specifically, with RED lines (closures) I was wondering if that would indicate the section to be dewatered? Any suggestions appreciated. Regards Richard

Unfortunately beyond the closures I now see.

Thanks, useful to know and sounds like it's definitely still in use. I wonder why CRT don't seem to recognise it?

Ah that's a useful possibility I'll check up on. Thanks very much. We're going to be entrapped (by necessity) between the two 7th Nov closures at Wigan and Parbold and I'm trying to ensure that we have everything covered.

Thanks. At least I now know it is (or possibly was) a genuine water supply. Any more recent info appreciated.

Hi All Quick question for locals (or those in the know). Is Dean Lock Water Point on the L & L (west of Wigan) a working water supply? It's mentioned in a number of places but not in the CRT map! If it is, out of interest as we're rather hoping to be using it, what's the flow rate like? Thanks Richard

I wish we had spoken more to him when we first saw him. His distress was obvious but he was unwilling to converse with us and my wife convinced me that maybe he had just split up with his girlfriend or some such crisis. The sight we were met with 10 mins later on our return from walking the dog was something I would not wish anybody to ever experience, truly horrific. It was only through a fortunate series of lucky coincidences that this young man didn't die today. He may yet not survive or he may be permanently and seriously physically affected by his actions today but I hope that we (and two passing cyclists) have given him a fighting chance. I am glad that my military service, albeit passed by 20 or so years now, gave me the ability to take the actions necessary to make the best out of a very bad situation. Thank you for your kind response. Regards Richard