new bathroom and head needed

[isatis]

The bathroom on new boat is going to need altering

new shower needed as we need every inch of height and we want to put in a compost toilet in the spring

what sort of connections can there be between shower tray and plumbing and how easy to rip out and start again i read somewhere about a pump to move the grey water up and out of the boat ?

is it possible to have a wet room situation,?

and any other advice welcome please

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

Your shower (or wetroom) floor will be well below the outside water level, so, you will need a pump to take it from your drain-point (plughole-showertray) up and out of the boat.

[bizzard]

Concerning a head. A chap who goes by the name of Frankenstein of Transylvania has just got to be the man to see about a new head.

[Hairy Animal]

Your shower (or wetroom) floor will be well below the outside water level, so, you will need a pump to take it from your drain-point (plughole-showertray) up and out of the boat.

Have a look on eBay for "12V Shower Sump Pump System" which is basically just a plastic box with a filter and a bilge pump that collects all your waste water from shower, sink & basin and pumps it up and overboard whenever it collects enough in the box.

[Tony Brooks]

Have a look on eBay for "12V Shower Sump Pump System" which is basically just a plastic box with a filter and a bilge pump that collects all your waste water from shower, sink & basin and pumps it up and overboard whenever it collects enough in the box.

 

No don't. These seem attractive but have something of a reputation of filling the bilges with (eventually) smelly shower water. A quick search on here will identify the Whale shower pump as the most reliable and popular. It has a diaphragm so will run dry for a while and also large rubber flap valves that will pass hairs and even small stones without blocking. Simply turn on when you get into the shower and off again once it has pumped all the water out.

[Alan de Enfield]

Have a look on eBay for "12V Shower Sump Pump System" which is basically just a plastic box with a filter and a bilge pump that collects all your waste water from shower, sink & basin and pumps it up and overboard whenever it collects enough in the box.

 

You dont need complicate the plumbing - the pump is purely for the shower/bath,

 

Sinks and basins are above water level and drain by gravity.

 

KISS

[Guest]

No don't. These seem attractive but have something of a reputation of filling the bilges with (eventually) smelly shower water. A quick search on here will identify the Whale shower pump as the most reliable and popular. It has a diaphragm so will run dry for a while and also large rubber flap valves that will pass hairs and even small stones without blocking. Simply turn on when you get into the shower and off again once it has pumped all the water out.

Quite correct they are not very good, i can state from experience, as Tony says a shower pump is far better we fitted a NON return valve as well so water did not drain back causing a smell if left too long

[Tony Brooks]

Also a swan neck above the hull outlet stops rain running down the hose and into the shower. It can be a fair bit during the winter.

[ditchcrawler]

So how does your present shower/bath empty, surly the waste is not 2 foot from the floor level?

[smileypete]

Usual way to pump shower water overboard is with a Whale Gulper 220, not cheap at £80ish but it works:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Whale-Gulper-220-Shower-Waste-Water-Pump-12v-New-A22-/111472580219

 

To plumb to a standard 40mm shower trap there are 40mm to stepped hose tails adapters on Ebay, usually from Koi suppliers:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=stepped+hose+tail+solvent&_sop=15

 

From there to the gulper 3/4" ribbed pond hose can be used, then same to a skin fitting with 3/4" hose tail, clips to suit:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=ribbed+pond+hose+%283%2F4%2C+0.75%2C+20mm%29&_sop=15

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brass-3-4-skin-fitting-canal-boat-cruiser-river-narrowboat-yacht-/251331298768

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15-20-25-32-38-40-50mm-DOUBLE-WIRE-HOSE-PIPE-CLIPS-SCREW-TIGHT-KOI-FISH-POND-/151376036539

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kockney-Koi-Yamitsu-Hose-Clamps-All-Sizes-Double-Wire-Jubilee-Clip-/161421806377

 

There's all different shower traps, a trawl of Ebay will show good range. Some are shallower than others, but must suit the hole in the shower tray!

 

A larger chandlery should have most if not all the above bits.

 

ETA: Tiles can be a little tricky, some use shower wall panel eg:

 

http://www.diy.com/search/results/?question=shower+panel

 

cheers, Pete.

~smpt~

Edited September 28, 2014 by smileypete

[isatis]

not sure at present will have to dismantle to find out but need to get it back to north wales first preferably with shower working, before dismantling and rejigging bathroom. I do not want to travel 10 days with out a shower we might pong otherwise.

[blackrose]

Personally I would avoid a wet room. I know some people have done it successfully, but I think it's better to keep shower waste water contained in a shower tray.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2014 by blackrose