pete23 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 evening. how much bleech would you use to swill a 45 gal drum out?? ive got a couple of recon plastic ones i want to use to fill me water tanks up with, but feel i need to give them a bit of a swilling first!!! tar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 evening. how much bleech would you use to swill a 45 gal drum out?? ive got a couple of recon plastic ones i want to use to fill me water tanks up with, but feel i need to give them a bit of a swilling first!!! tar. Probably about 45 gallons if they were used to hold a cesspit overflow! In some respects I would be more worried about what kind of plastic are these containers and are they food safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Probably about 45 gallons if they were used to hold a cesspit overflow! In some respects I would be more worried about what kind of plastic are these containers and are they food safe. And, where are you going to empty them of bleach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 And, where are you going to empty them of bleach? Same place you would empty 1 gallon of bleach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete23 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 theres a taddy little pond up the road full of rare carp and lots of vary rare birds, thought id go and unload meself in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionbargee Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 if they are standard blue or white HDPE drums they are food quality, but unless you know what was in there you could poison yourself, they also fill them with truly evil chemicals, and other nasties like caustic detergents. My water tank is one, but i got it from a food factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Brown Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 If it was previously used for food then start washing it out, otherwise give up now. I've seen lots of toxic chems in drums and wouldn't want to drink their leaching from the plastic drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Assuming a bleach solution is used follow up with a good rinse out then swill round with a sodium metabisulfite solution (available from homebrew shops) Chlorine and metabisulfite chemically neutralise each other and leave everything untainted and odourless. Edited for spelling. Edited December 6, 2012 by nb Innisfree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete23 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 cheers for the replies, but how much bleech would you mix to 45gal of water??? any ideas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 cheers for the replies, but how much bleech would you mix to 45gal of water??? any ideas??? I would say a cup full would be more than enough to kill any bugs and you would still need to rinse it several times to get rid of the taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete23 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I would say a cup full would be more than enough to kill any bugs and you would still need to rinse it several times to get rid of the taste cheers dc, was going to fill barrels up in the back of my trailer and take for a drive then leave it in over night, then rinse them out for the best part of a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I would pour in a bottle of neat thin bleach, dead cheap from Tesco, and brush it around the inside several times being carefull to keep your head clear of fumes, then drain into a container and carry on as in my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 But I would add that the bleach will not remove any noxious chemicals. All it will do is kill bacteria. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Only 99.9 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1042 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) My thin bleach indicates 50ml per 5 litres off water for cleaning kitchen surfaces etc. This would seem fine to me as a ratio, but you should check your own bleach instructions. Make sure you use Domestos, as it kills germs 'Dead!' as opposed to the other forms of killing germs that other bleaches do ... undead? Zombie germs? Edited December 8, 2012 by brian1042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkshall Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Actually you could use Miltons solution, does the same job without the smell./ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Actually you could use Miltons solution, does the same job without the smell./ But cost a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Actually you could use Miltons solution, does the same job without the smell./ Chlorine based like bleach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 But I would add that the bleach will not remove any noxious chemicals. All it will do is kill bacteria. N Which brings us back to the most important point, do you know exactly what has been in those drums before you got them, not just their original use but has anyone put anything else in them since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1042 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 My thin bleach indicates 50ml per 5 litres off water for cleaning kitchen surfaces etc. This would seem fine to me as a ratio, but you should check your own bleach instructions. I would use 5 litres diluted as indicated. Make sure you use Domestos, as it kills germs 'Dead!' as opposed to the other forms of killing germs that other bleaches do ... undead? Zombie germs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete23 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Which brings us back to the most important point, do you know exactly what has been in those drums before you got them, not just their original use but has anyone put anything else in them since? no idea what was in them before, bloke i got them off reckons there good, but that means nothing!!! been looking at some drinking water test kits you can get but not sure wich one to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 no idea what was in them before, bloke i got them off reckons there good, but that means nothing!!! been looking at some drinking water test kits you can get but not sure wich one to get. My advice would be forget it. If you don't know what's been in there why risk it. Would you drink water out of my pumpout tank if I give it a flush with chlorinated water? It could even be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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