pophops Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Our trad. stern 47ft boat was built by Stowe Hill Marine about 1989. We have owned her for 12 months or so. There is a noticable list to port which I think has been there since we bought the boat. I'd say that this side of the boat is about two inches lower in the water than the other side. It's been pointed out to me that most of the weight is on the port side i.e. engine and batteries, bed base and mattress, bathroom and pump-out tank, galley and dinette, with only the woodburner to starboard. Is this something we have to live with or could I correct it with ballast? If so, how much and where would it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kienik Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 When i bought my boat it had exaclty the same problem, and the previous owners said they just lived with it, I didnt want to so i started to investigate the problem, my layout is the same as you describe, so i checked the ballast on either side of the boat and to my surprise their was exactly the same number of sand bags on both sides of the boat, this was madness as the majority of fittings and equipment is on the port side of my boat too, Simple job was move two sand bags to the starboard side and check to see how she sat in the water, hay presto i now have a boat that sits perfectly in the water and actually seems to handle better & "rocks" when i move to one side i would check this with yours and try it out as it cost me nothing and has solved the problem Nik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolimo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 your ballast may have shifted. you should have access points under your built in furniture. if its not moved then maybe consider removing ballast from the port side so the boat sits better in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 My diesel tank,washing machine, poo tank and bed are on the one side, offset by the morso on the other. When pump out has been done and fuel low, the boat is almost level........however, it lists to port as a rule. I live with it. You could offset by ballast (concrete paving slabs etc) however, I tried this and would have needed a lot more concrete to make it effective, and the only place for it was at the rear where the engine is so I would get deeper at the back so gave up. The full width water tank being full helps a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I normally lean towards the port but never before dinner and not until the ladies have retired to the drawing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Our trad. stern 47ft boat was built by Stowe Hill Marine about 1989. We have owned her for 12 months or so. There is a noticable list to port which I think has been there since we bought the boat. I'd say that this side of the boat is about two inches lower in the water than the other side. It's been pointed out to me that most of the weight is on the port side i.e. engine and batteries, bed base and mattress, bathroom and pump-out tank, galley and dinette, with only the woodburner to starboard. Is this something we have to live with or could I correct it with ballast? If so, how much and where would it go? If your floor isn't fixed you could move some of the underfloor ballast to starboard. But I would always recommend having some moveable trimming ballast. 28ib and 56 lb weights are ideal for this. If it weren't for the trimming ballast on my own boat she would have a natural list to starboard. At the moment I have 6 X 56lb weights and 15 metres of heavy chain in a front locker on the port side. It is surprising how little room it takes up. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieronymus Bosh Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hi all, We too list a bit to port, but i was wondering if anyone could tell me where to source the 28 & 56 lb weights that PhilR mentioned. I have a couple of these onboard already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hi all, We too list a bit to port, but i was wondering if anyone could tell me where to source the 28 & 56 lb weights that PhilR mentioned. I have a couple of these onboard already. They used to use the 56lb weights for mudweights on the Thames in certain areas specially for anchoring the buoys used as sailing course markers - I know that because I've had a couple out on the magnet in the past. You do need a bit of a ridiculous magnet for these however Other than that always check in old antique shops and car boot sales they occasionally turn up. Market traders use them but probably rather like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Our 58 foot tends to lean to port when pumpout is empty,i usually just try balance it out with a few bricks,bags of coal at the front by just moving from starboard to port , cos it will change depending what your carrying, not really a big deal, you will never get it right...after a month the pumpout loo will be half full hence will need balancing again..when it does get full and we empty it, it sure does go back a long way to list to port again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ours is level except when the fridge and freezer are getting low and the food cupboards are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I normally lean towards the port but never before dinner and not until the ladies have retired to the drawing room Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Our 58 foot tends to lean to port when pumpout is empty,i usually just try balance it out with a few bricks On reading this I immediately thought "too much information" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieronymus Bosh Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thanks David, I used to work in the music biz.. wish I'd taken more of an interest in the "stage weights" I used to lug around lol. *mutters.. Harry Hindsight , I hate you......* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pophops Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thanks for all your suggestions. Particularly the thought that we could maybe level things up by removing some ballast. That's lateral thinking for you! Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ours often leans to the port side, so we just drink some of the booze in the fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Do Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Our trad. stern 47ft boat was built by Stowe Hill Marine about 1989. We have owned her for 12 months or so. There is a noticable list to port which I think has been there since we bought the boat. I'd say that this side of the boat is about two inches lower in the water than the other side. It's been pointed out to me that most of the weight is on the port side i.e. engine and batteries, bed base and mattress, bathroom and pump-out tank, galley and dinette, with only the woodburner to starboard. Is this something we have to live with or could I correct it with ballast? If so, how much and where would it go? Hi, Ours also listed so we spent quite a lot of effort on correcting this. We tucked a cut down paving slab under the cooker, added 56lb weight on swim, 5 gallon jerry full of water in a locker, anchor chain moved to starboard etc. Got her straight so decided to cut a wine locker in the rear floor and took out some ballast slabs while at it. We then ditched the water jerry and got our locker back. We think our list was caused when the previous owner added another battery. Unfortunately we couldn't shift this in order to correct the lean but it may be something that you could look at. It's always better to move the weight that you have rather than add more. Curiously we have removed most of the 'extra' trimming ballast over the last year. Must be all the cr## er we mean the trappings of modern life that we seem to gather around us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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