Squatter Boats at visitor moorings

[moggyjo]

Makes sense, if they're doctors.

 

I was on about the other boat though. the one with no id at all

[Chris Pink]

there is no excuse for not moving.

 

 

Marinas emptied tomorrow then? Permanent moorings abolished?

 

My grandmother's advice; don't jump to conclusions.

[moggyjo]

Marinas emptied tomorrow then? Permanent moorings abolished?

 

My grandmother's advice; don't jump to conclusions.

 

They have a mooring nearer to Oxford

[grahoom]

They have a mooring nearer to Oxford

 

I'll have their mooring if they don't want it ....

[Bones]

me too!

 

One just never knows about these things. Campers will set up up and down the canal, and we just never know the whys or the wherefores. if you are a visitor and it affects you, all you can do is complain. If you aren't, then I suppose it is just one of those things. At the end of the day it is between the boater and BW. I have met a surprising number of continuous cruisers who continuously cruise at snails pace... one boat has moved 1 inch in 6 months... most admirable.

[jelunga]

Just a question, are you my wife? This is just the sort of comment she would make!!!

 

 

 

 

I think its awful..........................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..........those curtains don't match the paint at all

[gaggle]

what real harm are these people doing.?

[alan_fincher]

BW have asked/ told them to move but have said they wont go.

 

Whilst I'm no lover of people flouting rules, (if indeed thy are ?), you have said that BW are already aware of the situation.

 

Surely what happens next is between BW, (who presumably know the licence status, which we do not), and the owners of the boats in question ?

 

Any discussion on here is unlikely to change the situation in any way whatsoever, whatever one's point of view, I would have thought.

[Maffi]

Looks like a fairly standard "traveler" site to me.

A contradiction in terms, surely?

 

 

Forget the contradiction the spelling is atrocious

Edited July 3, 2008 by Maffi

[1066]

Forget the contradiction the spelling is atrocious

 

Firefox doesn't like the English spelling

[SteveE]

And? What b****y difference does that make BW?

(Conjecture as per Snibble) Great, BW have introduced a hierarchy of undesirability now. If you're a paragon of virtue you get to buck the system too!

 

Bit of a raw nerve there. If they are doctors not only will they know full well what the arrangements for visitor moorings are but they should be well able to coax their arses into sorting out their licences, etc, on time. Only lazy doctors write illegibly, BTW.

SteveE

[bottle]

Firefox doesn't like the English spelling

 

Yes it does if you download the English British dictionary.

 

Firefox British English dictionary

[Denis R]

what real harm are these people doing.?

Well if we all go out and do it chaos will descend. And I don't think it's OK to say that it's only a couple of boats. They're either visitor moorings or they're not. If they are keep them free for visitors. If they're not, fine but make it clear.

[StoneHenge]

Marinas emptied tomorrow then? Permanent moorings abolished?

 

My grandmother's advice; don't jump to conclusions.

 

Ahh, but they are paying not to move, there is a difference, and are paying for a license as well.

 

I am not jumping to conclusions, merely speculating that if they are on visitor moorings on a restricted time limit, then they are taking the pi55 full stop. If they are doctors, then shame on them for setting a bad example.

 

As I said license or not, if they are on visitor mooring over the time limit allowed they should move, no excuses, unless they have a proper and genuine reason for not being able to move. Being a doctor is not one. Having your engine fall through the floor and sink is, or someone breaking a leg or dying is, but not being a doctor and not having a license. They are not excuses.

 

And several of them having the same excuse as well?

[Grace and Favour]

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Edited July 4, 2008 by Grace & Favour

[GSer]

I don't know the area where they are moored, but why don't they move to the 14 day towpath moorings in the area, could it be that they too are full of overstayers?

 

Paul

[Sir Nibble]

I've just returned from cruising this area for the first time, and let me say to the locals, whilst there may be one or two isolated instances like this, you do not have a problem, non whatever.

When the approaches to both sides of Cropredy are thick with permanent overstayers, when visitor moorings on the outskirts of Banbury have become residential. Then you will know what the western K&A is like.

[bottle]

As many of you will know I have just 'done' Oxford to Cropredy and return.

 

I did not at anytime have a problem in finding a mooring, I passed many boats, did not notice whether they were licensed, on the wrong mooring, whether they were abandoned or occupied (slowed for every one though ).

 

I just got on with my enjoyment and will leave the worrying to BW.

 

Actually I did notice one boat that was displaying three licences, that's why it was noticed, they were for 2005, 2006 and 2007

[Capey]

Just as well he did this in Stratford-Upon-Avon. If he had done that here in London somebody would have pinched his battery!

 

Stewey

 

 

And here in Manchester - someone would have pinched his boat, table, unbrella and his dog

[mayalld]

Whilst I'm no lover of people flouting rules, (if indeed thy are ?), you have said that BW are already aware of the situation.

 

Surely what happens next is between BW, (who presumably know the licence status, which we do not), and the owners of the boats in question ?

 

Any discussion on here is unlikely to change the situation in any way whatsoever, whatever one's point of view, I would have thought.

I think the issue is that (by virtue of human nature), some BW people will take the line of least resistance.

 

If the "squatters" are digging their heels in, the BW bod may well think "I don't need the grief, and nobody actually cares". It is only when BW understand that the people who obey the rules get mightilly pissed off about rule breaking being ignored (and may adopt an attitude of "bugger that for a game of mirps, I won't obey the rules either") that the laissez faire attitude gets challenged.

[gaggle]

just condition yourself not to get so mightily pissed of about such silly things as little bickle rules being broken , they are not stopping anyone from progressing with a journey or causing a hazard.

chill baby , the sun is shining and the temperture is hot , less with the negative waves.

[Chris Pink]

I am not jumping to conclusions, merely speculating that if they are on visitor moorings on a restricted time limit, then they are taking the pi55 full stop. If they are doctors, then shame on them for setting a bad example.

 

As I said license or not, if they are on visitor mooring over the time limit allowed they should move, no excuses, unless they have a proper and genuine reason for not being able to move. Being a doctor is not one. Having your engine fall through the floor and sink is, or someone breaking a leg or dying is, but not being a doctor and not having a license. They are not excuses.

 

But you wrote this story, you don't know any of it. Why not give them the benefit of the doubt and make a story where they are there legitimately and have BW permission?

 

These people have been tried and sentenced by you on not much evidence at all. All at best third hand.

 

Then you will know what the western K&A is like.

 

Truly truly this is a man obsessed.

[KenK]

But you wrote this story, you don't know any of it. Why not give them the benefit of the doubt and make a story where they are there legitimately and have BW permission?

 

These people have been tried and sentenced by you on not much evidence at all. All at best third hand.

 

 

 

Truly truly this is a man obsessed.

 

I went to the BW meeting with Robin Evans in Devizes a few weeks ago. The main complaint from all present representing boaters, hire companies, K&A Trust, trade associations, and local councils was the number of unlicensed boats overstaying on visitor moorings in the Bath valley. It's not just Jerry everyone is fed up with it, the complaints are so bad that we will now have, according to Robin Evans, significant enforcement up to if required using specialist companies to resolve the problem, I assume he meant balliffs or debt collection companies.

 

Ken

[mayalld]

just condition yourself not to get so mightily pissed of about such silly things as little bickle rules being broken , they are not stopping anyone from progressing with a journey or causing a hazard.

chill baby , the sun is shining and the temperture is hot , less with the negative waves.

 

So, we should all just chill, let the rule breakers get away with it, and obey the rules ourself?

 

Of course this individual boat and a couple of others don't cause a direct problem.

 

What would cause a problem is if everybody decided to ignore the rules.

 

Fairness dictates that if we all have to obey rules for the common good, so must others.

[Bones]

I am a Dr and I have, in the past, had to overstay. Being a DR doesn't help, but it does show that people are people, and on occassion we all need a bit of help irrespective of our title.

 

If BW are chosing to help these people, then thank goodness, I am sure they do it for people who aren't Drs too. Some time in the past I did have to overstay, and for non of the reasons that have been mentioned. A third party bow hauling my boat somewhere wouldn't have solved the situation, nor would anything anyone could have done to me. What I do know, is that I was allowed to moor my boat for an extended period of time, in one location, and near a road. I will be eternally grateful for that. I expect Jo public would have been furious, but thankfully Jo public weren't in charge.#

 

No, I don't advocate overstaying.

Edited July 4, 2008 by Bones