Heartland Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Today a serious fire happened in industrial units beside Kelvin Way, West Bromwich which may be the Envira Recycling depot. The M5 has been closed north bound and this location is also near the BCN Spon Lane Locks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 At least the Fire Brigade will know where to get some water. 😊😊 N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 It always seems to be these scrap yards, sorry, recycling centres that go up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Like chip shops perhaps? Clears things out, provides a new start..... Recycling outfits are naturally vulnerable sites, especially if car breaking is involved, with lots of low value flammables just waiting for an ignition source. Lots of those in some recycled materials. Hard to take preventive measures without losing viability. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted August 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 The drone footage published on line shows the fire in a stack of cardboard on one side of the site with Envira trailers nearby. Several reports mention that the stack comprised 300 tonnes of compressed cardboard. But the acrid black smoke may suggest that plastic was also placed in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 15 hours ago, BEngo said: At least the Fire Brigade will know where to get some water. 😊😊 N The water between the Crow and Spon Lane would probably burn - there's still more than a trace of oil in it many years after the boats stopped running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robtheplod Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 Random fires will become quite common as we go into the winter i suspect - struggling businesses...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard T Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 Waste/recycling sites are notorious for fires. However the owners rarely put in adequate fire supression systems as they cost substantial amounts of money. However in the event of a fire the consequential losses through not being able to trade and honour contracts can be huge. The fire load can be very large. When I designed the buildings for the site at South Kirkby near Wakefield the vulnerable buildings were fitted with either sprinklers or remote controlled water cannon - this was a requirement of the insurers. Building regulations only cover dangers to human life and the need to safeguard neighbouring properties and are not concerned about consequential losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Richard T said: Building regulations only cover dangers to human life and the need to safeguard neighbouring properties and are not concerned about consequential losses. This was the case until about 20 years ago, but nowadays BRs mandate stuff nothing to do with safety, e.g. insulation levels, what sort of windows you can have, boilers must be condensing, sleeping areas must be in a separate heating zone and seemingly endless other political, planet-saving stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard T Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 hours ago, MtB said: This was the case until about 20 years ago, but nowadays BRs mandate stuff nothing to do with safety, e.g. insulation levels, what sort of windows you can have, boilers must be condensing, sleeping areas must be in a separate heating zone and seemingly endless other political, planet-saving stuff. I was referring to Part B which covers Fire safety not the other parts which cover a multitude of other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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