Hot ash setting of the carbon monoxide detector?

[MtB]

38 minutes ago, MartynG said:

I think we all knew that .

Same applies to food where a 'use by' date is commonly seen. No one forces you to eat it.

 

 

You're kidding? I thought I had to eat everything in my kitchen before the "Use By"....

 

Well I never. Thanks for explaining. 

 

 

 

[Momac]

24 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Halon is illegal to use on board and that the dangers of CO2 means they 'suggest' it is not used.

Halon was banned 20 years ago. Not just for boats but in any application.  Not just new installations but existing Halon installations had to be decommission by that date.

16 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

 

You're kidding? I thought I had to eat everything in my kitchen before the "Use By"....

 

Well I never. Thanks for explaining. 

 

 

 

You started it

Edited November 10, 2023 by MartynG

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, MartynG said:

Halon was banned 20 years ago. Not just for boats but in any application.  Not just new installations but existing Halon installations had to be decommission by that date.

 

I know - I am just quoting what is written in the BSS.

 

Halon extinguishers are the subject of an international ban, are illegal to have on board and are not to be considered as part of the specified number of portable fire extinguishers. Current advice is for owners to contact local recycling centres or specialist waste disposal companies to arrange for an environmentally-friendly disposal

Edited November 10, 2023 by Alan de Enfield

[Momac]

19 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I know - I am just quoting what is written in the BSS.

 

Halon extinguishers are the subject of an international ban, are illegal to have on board and are not to be considered as part of the specified number of portable fire extinguishers. Current advice is for owners to contact local recycling centres or specialist waste disposal companies to arrange for an environmentally-friendly disposal

Some folks may be unaware 

 

[ditchcrawler]

2 hours ago, MtB said:

 

 

You're kidding? I thought I had to eat everything in my kitchen before the "Use By"....

 

Well I never. Thanks for explaining. 

 

 

 

We just eat it anyway, sell by dates weren't invented when I was a kid and I survived that.

[magnetman]

We had some pretty cool Halon fire extinguishers yars ago in the garage when we bought the house. Left there by a precious owner. They had a sort of gun type holder. This was late 80s. One day I was enthusiastically showing a friend and it went orf in his face. He is still alive but at the time his parents were concerned. 

 

Also in the garage were some .22 live rifle bullets. I took some in to the school one day and shared them and it all got very exciting.

No one died and the head master declined to admonish me as I demonstrated that the .22 bullet he had got hold of from another pupil had a V on the firing cap whereas mine had a K.

It must have been someone else with other bullets. I think he believed me. 

 

I secretly knew there were two separate batches of bullets in this scenario both of which I had shared amongst other pupils. 

 

 

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

10 hours ago, magnetman said:

We had some pretty cool Halon fire extinguishers yars ago in the garage

 

I used to regularly go to the Military dispersal sales at Ruddington (you could pick up a BSA Bantam despatch riders bike for between £50 & £100), Over time We bought a few Trucks (for conversion into Glider launching winches)  and they always had a couple of Halon extinguisher mounted under the cab seats.

 

The 70s-80s - Those were the days ..............................

 

 

[Francis Herne]

On 09/11/2023 at 13:28, cuthound said:

Some stoves are so poorly manufactured or badly maintained that a high wind will cause the fire to flare up because of gaps between castings, broken glass or cracks with the vents closed down. Not a problem if you are in attendance but could be if you are not. As you are a long term liveaboard I'm amazed I'm having to explain this to you.

 

Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that it can't happen.

 

Some boats are so badly maintained that a cloudy week will cause the boat to sink because there isn't enough solar energy for the bilge pump to keep up with the leaks. By this reasoning we should never leave any boat unattended.

 

You'll find very few liveaboard boaters who don't regularly leave the stove in unattended, or overnight which might as well be. It's quite safe if the stove is properly looked after, and if not the answer is to fix it rather than applying half-baked procedural mitigations.

 

I'm amazed at having to explain that to an experienced boater.

 

[last line more snarky than I would usually be, but might as well keep the theme going...]

[cuthound]

46 minutes ago, Francis Herne said:

 

Some boats are so badly maintained that a cloudy week will cause the boat to sink because there isn't enough solar energy for the bilge pump to keep up with the leaks. By this reasoning we should never leave any boat unattended.

 

You'll find very few liveaboard boaters who don't regularly leave the stove in unattended, or overnight which might as well be. It's quite safe if the stove is properly looked after, and if not the answer is to fix it rather than applying half-baked procedural mitigations.

 

I'm amazed at having to explain that to an experienced boater.

 

[last line more snarky than I would usually be, but might as well keep the theme going...]

 

Yes but not many sink during cloudy weeks, whereas boats fires have increased significantly as more and more people have lived on boats.

 

Of course sensible boaters don't buy cheap Chinese stoves with large gaps between the castings, maintain things properly so they stay safe and know how to bank a fire with minimal ventilation so that it will stay safely stay in overnight or longer.

 

I'm amazed I'm having to explain to any boater, experienced or not.

 

last line more snarky than I would usually be, but might as well keep the theme going and going...]

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by cuthound

[ditchcrawler]

More than one experienced boater has died due to their fire unfortunately and lots of new boaters know sod all about solid fuel fires let alone on boats.
I have a solid fuel small cooking range in the back cabin, there is not a seal in it anywhere, just lose fitting doors and plates, I would never consider going to bed with that alight and I probably haven't lit it for 4 or 5 years