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That's true roger ... HW2 also available with either prm or blackstone box

Just the two Tim, also got a hr2 with black stone box and complete with raised handstart if anyone is interested. Need to clear some space out ...

Hi I've got a couple of lister hr3's. Inbox me for more details. Hi I've got a couple of lister hr3's. Inbox me for more details.

To be fair to Daniel, the bridge was on a bend and both boats were at speed. I don't think I could of avoided a collision in them circumstances.

The line will also act so as to stop the boat from riding back onto the cill say if the engine went out, which why rare with a boat that is set up well, there is always a chance a bolinder can go out which switching from ahead to astern, true the boat should go back in the lock slowly by itself when going downhill but this does not always work with every lock. Also to note the thumbline or gate line will if correctly rigged up will flick off the top of the Luby if the line was to foul. Unfortunately most people seem to have the line tied off on the mast due to a lack of understanding. As previously commented as long as the gates are not forced open until the level no harm is done to lock furniture and fitments, I totally agree that it's quicker to open the gate by hand as you can usually open the gate before the level when there's still a few inches of water in the lock. Just to add for clarification I'm responsible for the boats involved in the video as I'm sure most of the previous posters are aware anyway.

There seems 2 have beem problems with the pound between the top and middle lock for over a year now hav had to fill the pound up on many ocasions, passed through today on emu and no problems at all, the problem is the middle lock top gates leak and pound goes down if the bottom gates are not completley shut. waterways are well aware of the situation,

Yes and no, the Midlands and coast taurus is still in grub street cutting as david says, the butty paired with snipe was originally called crater and re-named as taurus to replace the m and c one when went out of service as hotel boat, the middle northwich taurus is now owned by peter wakeham and paired with the josher baron, if i get over that way i'll take a pic and post it

Three hands is plenty of people to work a pair , especially when empty, no crew required, send one down with motor and leave two on the butty, just remember to tow on the longer pounds at atherstone. I just love the mentality of trust boats that seem to think they need dozens of people to work a pair through locks. In my opinion as daniel says any more than four your tripping over each other. In any case its efficency, not the amount of crew or running to set the locks its being in the right place at the right time with the mininum amount of effort, rant over for now

The pair had just under thirty ton at the national, fazeley was loaded 15ton dead at boxmoor and i should think clover still had about 10ton on it then, all unloaded day after pic and traveling light again! Boats are backs at south island at ponders end with the rest of fleet.

The correct term would be Tumblehome and the cabin slopes inwards to give clearance at bridges and tunnels, so the cabin is not fouled. Clearly a butty has more tumblehome as it has no gunnels and also rides higher out of the water when empty.

At gosgrove with the pair en route to stoke event will pop in before braunston, had a far less eventful milton keynes pound today than with Hare and Stafford

The half a josher is the back end of a butty malcolms got, lets have a go at naming all other 9 shall we?

Hope you've remember to count Hare.

Been through numerous times with the full length Fmc Clover and Hare with no problems also been through with fellow R W Davis boat Alder and no problems what so ever, nothing to worry about, the locks are tighter on much of the bcn

The whole idea of the rope at the back is that it is tied in such away as so the boat cannot slip forward, as these were experienced boaters involved i should think they were keeping a check on the boat all the while it was on the cill, alot of us, without weedhatches have to resort to this sometimes in extreme situations. One of a very few pictures you will find of a boat being cilled deliberately. looks like denham deep lock to me.

Warning, Don't try this at home!!!

I think you ought to check the stoppages as you won't get through london till the end of the month with the stoppage at whitemore road bridge, (sturts lock shut for duration of the works), There are also numerous stoppages on the grand union. Hertford union is still shut and is to remain shut for quite a while from what waterways told me on friday.

As far as i believe fornax is lying under the first main road bridge north of fenny stratford lock so it could well be fornax for sale.

It is suspected the boat on the left is Olympian, and likely Elder would have been inside of that. Well they should both be there somewhere.

Would it be the christmas gathering at stockton? Boats are elizabeth far back colonel centre and posssibly roger wakehams ash second boat back on the right Pic's now dissapeared though

Roughly i've worked out the how economical the gardner 3lw was on a trip from rickmansworth to saul, quite rough, as trying to work out the hours it took us in 2004 but the trip from being brimmed to being brimmed again at saul was only 12 gallon, working on this being roughly 60 litres, the average consumption per hour works out 0.6 litres an hour would seem quite economical really compared with these modern engines. I have also noticed as many people say the gardners are very economical and when doing the same trip with a gardner3lw in alder (a modern R W Davis boat) and a bolinder 1053 in clover with the total weight of clover with load being a similar weight to Alder the Gardner is always more economical. Although the vintage smoke ring blowers, as many refer to old engines, would appear to be more efficent than say the modern barrus engines which most people have worked out do about one litre an hour in a narrowbeam. Will have to get round to working this out properly. However we must remember that the fuel efficency is not just down to the engine, its dependant on the whole boat set up so will depend on hull, prop efficency, etc

I'd have to agree to that!

Interesting how all the yarwoods built joshers have only the two rubbing strakes would seem to put this theory to bed of yarwoods only having three rubbbing strakes. I'd agree quite a good way of recognising the builder of a grand union boat, but they usually easily recognisable from the quite distinctive different fore-ends.