Tony Brooks Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 IF and its now a big if you can pull that bulb from the metal holder you could replace it with a filament bulb. However although the top picture seems to show the little glass/ceramic ball that often supports the filament uprights the middle one seem to show a clear flat top inside the glass envelope therefore I think it is an LED and will never energise the alternator. I very much fear that you won't be able to get the "bulb" out of the holder because LEDs "never fail" so are fixed for life. I think the larger cap diameter just below the glass envelope in your earlier photos tends to confirm this because it houses the electronics. Its a very common plastic part so you may be able to simple swap the metal bulb holder for one that actually carries a bulb but I would go for a larger lamp like Vehicle Wiring Products 739600 or GE39R. https://www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk/c-63-warning-lights Get one that uses 987 or 989 bulb. The 989 is a 5 Watt bulb and can usually be swapped for a 4 Watt 233 in the same lamp assembly. You may need to search for suitable lamps so I would advise looking for your local autoelectrical specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I have the Lister ST2 which also has the alternator drive off the camshaft, even with the its 10'' pulley the light with a 2.2w bulb in it struggled to start the charge without revving the engine quite high. I put in the the large bulb holder with 5w bulb and which goes out and starts the charge instantly the engine is starts. I glued a red plastic nozzle cap from an aerasol can over the bulb to look right, the holder and bulb slide out from behind if needed. The excitement was the exactly same with the old ACR alternator as it is with the present modern 70amp Nippon one which I had going spare which I fitted. Edited February 17, 2020 by bizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hi bought a green amber red warning light don’t know if this is the right one couple of pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Waring light - for what purprose, pretty please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Alternator charging light lister sr2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Roxylass said: Hi bought a green amber red warning light don’t know if this is the right one couple of pics I very much doubt it. I think that one is an LED as well but it might have an inbuilt parallel resistor as it states its or an IGNITION warning lamps and not a charge warning lamp you need. It seems one side connects to earth (12V-) so I doubt it is anything other than an LED for boy racer types. Please stop buying from the net and the likes of Halfords. You need a lamp with an old fashioned BULB in it of at least 2 watts. Otherwise I think your first purchase will work as long as you put a resistor between the two terminals. I am not sure of the value but I think maybe 40 ohms but others will, I hope, give chapter and verse. Look for a warning lamp with a removable bulb. I doubt it will have any wiring tails on it and it may look a bit like your first effort but the bulb holder will pull out of the plastic body - then you can remove the bulb. IF the bulb is not removable and is the size of a grain of wheat its the wrong type of lamp. You could always fit it and see if it works. Edited February 22, 2020 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Here is another one the bulb says 64111 osram 12v 3w. W843 couple of pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 That one should be fine and if needs must can probably change the bulb for 4 watt plus one, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Much obliged tony got a pack of 5watt bulbs ordered from osram arriving Tuesday-Wednesday your help much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, Roxylass said: Much obliged tony got a pack of 5watt bulbs ordered from osram arriving Tuesday-Wednesday your help much appreciated I think the 5w bulb may have a much bigger globe than the 3w one in your pic. Although the 5w bulb cap and bayonet pins should fit that holder ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Thank you biz now I need to know where the negative and positive leads fasten on to this is a learning curve for me your tuition is very much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Roxylass said: Thank you biz now I need to know where the negative and positive leads fasten on to this is a learning curve for me your tuition is very much appreciated It won't matter which way round you connect a bulb type lamp but is likely to with an L:ED. Taking the lamp in the photo above. One lead to the ignition on terminal of the ignition switch and the other to the small warning lamp terminal on the alternator. Often marked D+. You may well have to extend one lead and shorten the other for a neat job. Edited February 23, 2020 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Thank you very much Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Ignition on that will be the first turn of the key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 It's not an led. It's an MCC bulb and won't be more than 2.2W. you won't get a higher power bulb to fit. Parallel resistor or bigger warning light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Much though I hesitate to contradict SirN that looks like an MCC small envelope bulb to me and 233 4 watt bulbes are listed with that envalope. Now if its a lilliput bayonet cap I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 My car uses MCC 5w bulbs in the front sidelights, the globes are about 5/16'' diameter. Quote Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Pic with a 5watt bulb in it stripped the outside casing from it as it was a bit on the big side Edited March 1, 2020 by Roxylass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Now to see if it works - I am all agog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxylass Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Tried it on the battery terminals nice bright red from it i will stick to your instructions how to connect to the alternator and ignition switch also is just one click of the ignition key ignition on and I connect one wire to that terminal again many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taslim Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 22/02/2020 at 13:12, Roxylass said: Hi bought a green amber red warning light don’t know if this is the right one couple of pics It's a LED. Very ornamental. No use for what you need. As has been said , You need a FILLAMENT LIGHT BULB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Taslim said: It's a LED. Very ornamental. No use for what you need. As has been said , You need a FILLAMENT LIGHT BULB. Its moved on a long way from that post. She now has a proper 5 watt bulb in another holder. See four posts back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taslim Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: Its moved on a long way from that post. She now has a proper 5 watt bulb in another holder. See four posts back. Cheers Mr B. I wasn't looking at dates.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Tis easy to get confused in these long topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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