Willienelson Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi all I have a rear pulpit rail on my narrowboat, ( commonly referred to as pushpit), and on long journeys I could do with a seat to let me take the load off for a while. We have a trad style stern but as it's a white bear boat she's quite wide and rounded at the stern, sort of a cross between cruiser and trad style, but not semi trad. Small perch style padded seats are easy to get hold of but I'm struggling to find a fixing to secure it to the pulpit rail. Any ideas or suppliers? Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi all I have a rear pulpit rail on my narrowboat, ( commonly referred to as pushpit), and on long journeys I could do with a seat to let me take the load off for a while. We have a trad style stern but as it's a white bear boat she's quite wide and rounded at the stern, sort of a cross between cruiser and trad style, but not semi trad. Small perch style padded seats are easy to get hold of but I'm struggling to find a fixing to secure it to the pulpit rail. Any ideas or suppliers? Regards Pete Can you fit them outside the arc of the tiller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettie Boo Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Oh fiddle sticks - I'm out of popcorn!!!! Hold on tight and enjoy the ride, here we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willienelson Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Indeed I can! Health and safety dept can stand easy! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Indeed I can! Health and safety dept can stand easy! Pete That's a disappointment I was looking forward to the replies to your question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willienelson Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Me too! But no one has any ideas it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thHorseman Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Could something like this be modified? http://www.tcschandlery.co.uk/noa-pushpit-fitting-for-radarwind-generator-mounts/p10474 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 My trad came with taff rail bum rests which (this post has reminded me) I must remember to tear off and beat myself with! It's not that I've had a problem with them, it's that I keep getting tangled up in the black and yellow tape and falling over the orange cones that serve to warn about the tiller swept arcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Sus'pose it's not exactly what you want but.... it wedges on roof as the roof pulls in at the rear. (They are for Trads - just re-read and you don't have a trad - doh). Edited April 8, 2015 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 My trad came with taff rail bum rests which (this post has reminded me) I must remember to tear off and beat myself with! It's not that I've had a problem with them, it's that I keep getting tangled up in the black and yellow tape and falling over the orange cones that serve to warn about the tiller swept arcs. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/385605/Fatal_Injuries_from_Propeller_Flyer.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willienelson Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 5thhorseman, yes indeed something like that, not quite that, but something line that! Lol sea dog! And mark99 looks a great solution but as you say, wouldn't fit mine. Mines bigger than yours!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 My trad came with taff rail bum rests which (this post has reminded me) I must remember to tear off and beat myself with! It's not that I've had a problem with them, it's that I keep getting tangled up in the black and yellow tape and falling over the orange cones that serve to warn about the tiller swept arcs. Perhaps you could explain the humour of your comment to the family of the lady who was killed at Varney's Lock when the tiller bar swept her off the back deck. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Have a greenie. I get very cross with people who decry the advances in health and safety, as if the many lives saved by a minor inconvenience weren't worth the effort. Meanwhile back on topic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Perhaps you could explain the humour of your comment to the family of the lady who was killed at Varney's Lock when the tiller bar swept her off the back deck. What a stupid and insensitive comment the accident you refer to had noting to do with seating in the tiller arc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 What a stupid and insensitive comment Good morning. I hope that you have a nice day also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 The issue with rails and seats in confined area is that: 1) Tillers can cause crush injury against seat or block your escape from a swinging tiller 2) Rails can send you over head first into prop. The probability (risk) may be low, but consequences (hazard) bad. Best eliminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Québec Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) From Marine Accident Investigation Bureau: "A family were enjoying a holiday on a hired narrow boat. While attempting to moor alongside, waiting their turn for a lock, the boat struck the canal bank. The helmsman was seen to tip over the guard rail around the stern and fall into the water. The engine was stopped quickly, but the helmsman was entangled in the propeller and died from his injuries. Action taken: The Chief Inspector of Marine Accidents has published a Safety Flyer, circulated with the assistance of industry associations and voluntary bodies to raise awareness of the lessons learnt from this accident. A letter has also been written to the hire company highlighting safety issues to consider: Where guard rails are fitted, that they are of adequate height to prevent people from falling overboard near the propeller." Here's the MAIB flyer, with more details about how the tragedy occurred: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/385605/Fatal_Injuries_from_Propeller_Flyer.pdf Can't be repeated often enough: NEVER stand within the tiller arc when reversing. Edited April 8, 2015 by Québec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willienelson Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ok, let's not get into the health and safety issues here, I can see both sides of the issues and we shouldn't get personal. This thread was started with the fact in mind that h&s has no issue here as seating is outside of the arc of the tiller. I'm after a securing bracket, I'm not after starting arguments. Anyone any ideas on brackets to secure to the rail? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Québec Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 How about a bicycle seat-type fitting i.e. seat attached to pole that slides through eye-type fixing on rail and sits in suitable fitting attached to counter? Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ok, let's not get into the health and safety issues here, I can see both sides of the issues and we shouldn't get personal. This thread was started with the fact in mind that h&s has no issue here as seating is outside of the arc of the tiller. I'm after a securing bracket, I'm not after starting arguments. Anyone any ideas on brackets to secure to the rail? Pete What shape is the rail, flat or round? If round, It's probably a quick job for a welder to put on a couple of flat plate stubs to bolt the seat to, so it can't swivel or tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willienelson Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hi Quebec Good idea, I'll have a Jose at a couple of bike fittings to see if it'll be ok. Hi fade It's a round rail, very good idea to weld a fitting on, I'll look into that too! Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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